Mahara Wayman [00:00:05]:
Welcome to the art of badassery where I explore what it takes to live life on your own terms. Break free from the status quo and unleash your inner badass. Whether you're a rebel at heart or simply seeking inspiration to step outside your comfort zone, this podcast is for you. I'm your host, Mahara Wayman. And each week, I dive into the stories, insights, and strategies of those who've mastered the art of badassery and are living life to the fullest. They smile when no one is lucky. Welcome back to another episode of the art of badassery. I'm your host, Mahara Wayman, and we're gonna have a great conversation today because this lady Reminds me of me.
Mahara Wayman [00:00:52]:
We have a guest today that exemplifies the art of living authentically, embracing motherhood, and profoundly impacting her world. Please join me in welcoming Megan Gibson who hails from the stunning Gold Coast in Australia. Make It's Journey is a testament to the power of dreams and the beauty of being badass. No wonder she's a guest on the show today. Right? From a young age, she always dreamed of becoming a mother. And now she's not just a mother, but she is a remarkable mother of 7. Her love for her family radiates through her every word and her every action. But she's more than a mother.
Mahara Wayman [00:01:33]:
She's also an identity and alignment coach, a podcaster, and a writer. As an expert in the transformative journey of deep self discovery. Meghan's one to 1 coaching process is specially formulated to help individuals uncover their intrinsic values and their unique gifts. With grown up children, she knows firsthand the importance of leading by example in a world, Well, let's say that often lacks authenticity and vulnerability. Through her captivating podcast, Free to Be You, Meghan inspires women to break free from the constraints of pretending to be something that they're not, and instead, empowers them to embrace their authentic selves. Her message resonates deeply with me and with all of us, encouraging us to step out of self abandonment and into full self expression. As a dynamic speaker, Meghan shares profound insights and practical tools for unlocking personal clarity. She emphasizes the importance of aligning one's life and business with their values and vision, allowing one to take ownership To create the life of their dreams.
Mahara Wayman [00:02:45]:
So get your favorite drink, put on your headphones, and get ready for a great conversation. Megan, welcome to the show.
Megan Gibson [00:02:53]:
Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here with a fellow badass at that.
Mahara Wayman [00:02:59]:
Fellow badass. No. It was so funny because I get, you You know, a lot of people are reaching out to be on the podcast. And when I read your bio and checked out all of your stuff, all I could think was, oh my god. She's a younger, Blonder version of me. We have so much in common and which is which is beautiful and lots of fun. But I'm wondering if we can go back back back back back because there's a great story In how any well, all of us have great stories, but there's an especially good story when people have experienced a transformation. And often, I find that coaches like myself have had just that.
Mahara Wayman [00:03:34]:
So would you mind taking us back to sort of the beginning of the foray into when you started to question If this was all there is in your life.
Megan Gibson [00:03:47]:
I can certainly take you back to that moment. I think that One of the things oh, gosh. I'm trying to decide where to start. You know, I have always been somebody that wanted other people to be happy. I've always been the kind of girl who wanted people to like her and would do anything To receive praise or, to just know that I was enough. And that was Totally my way of being for my entire first half of my life.
Mahara Wayman [00:04:30]:
I was just gonna jump in here because I wanna say, that I hear that a lot, but I am curious. Was it when you were people pleasing, because let's call it. That's what it is.
Megan Gibson [00:04:42]:
Hurry. What it is. Spade to spade.
Mahara Wayman [00:04:45]:
Was it to your detriment, Or was it just people pleasing? Because I think there's a difference. Like, sometimes we do things that that really go against our values and are and and are not aligned with who we are as people or women or children or friends, And we do that to people, please. Other times, we people, please, but it really doesn't it doesn't really affect who we are. It's it doesn't go against the grain. So I'm just curious if you if you wouldn't mind Just been telling us a little bit more about that experience of people pleasing.
Megan Gibson [00:05:14]:
Well, I think that it's a bit of both, to be honest, Because I'm still somebody who loves to make people happy. That is a part of who I am. What became an issue was that When things didn't go well or when things didn't turn out or when I didn't get that outcome, I would blame myself. And I would start to collect evidence for this story about not being enough. And I know everybody relates to that because in my work, when I Talk to people about this like, what is it they believe about themselves is always some version of not being enough. So I know that's gonna resonate. For me, it was like, I not only collected evidence for that, I wore it like a badge of honor. And the where where that affected me the most was in my relationships with the people that I was closest with because though the the other peep that's where you're supposed to feel safest, and it became a space where I felt most unsafe because I can't really explain it in in a tangible sense, but it's this feeling of, like, Complete fear that everything that you've built up and made and and created is gonna come tumbling down If you screw up in any way, shape, or form, and it becomes exhausting after a while.
Mahara Wayman [00:06:39]:
Why do you
Megan Gibson [00:06:39]:
So yeah. That's that's that exhaustion where I started to realize if I don't change, I'm always gonna be this tired. I'm always gonna be happy giving from an empty cup.
Mahara Wayman [00:06:53]:
Why do you think this is so prevalent with women today. And and maybe it's just prevalent with all human beings, and it's always been that way. We just didn't have the words to recognize it. I'm not sure. But because your story is so similar to mine, and it's so similar to everyone's, and I'm like
Megan Gibson [00:07:11]:
Yeah.
Mahara Wayman [00:07:12]:
What happened Between birth and 16 or birth and 10 or birth and 6, where we'll where we learned these, is that just the human condition, or is it something from the timeline that we are that we've been born into in this in this time around?
Megan Gibson [00:07:29]:
Well, I think, again, I think it's a bit of both. So, like, For for us as women and especially women who oh, I, like I always wanted to be a mom. Like, it's all I ever wanted to do. Like, I didn't just wanna be a mom. I wanted to be an amazing mom, and that was, like, running in the background of my mind From when I was playing with Barbie dolls as a kid as a little girl, like, I just wanted to be the best mom ever. Not everyone has that goal. Not every woman has that goal. Some women wanna be other things.
Megan Gibson [00:08:01]:
It's not that I all only wanted to be that, but I definitely wanted to be that. And so we are natural nurturers. It's our feminine way. We nurture other people and not just our children, but Just the people in our lives. And, again, some women are more like that than others. But I am a natural nurturer, and that's not a bad thing. But what it does and when I talk self abandonment. I don't necessarily mean that it's always negative because some we do have to put ourselves To decide to be that kind of mother that we wanna be.
Megan Gibson [00:08:34]:
And in order for me to to pour that much love and energy and attention into my children and into my marriage at the time, I had to put some of the things that I wanted aside, and that's totally okay. But what it does do is rob us a little bit of our sense of self or a lot, actually. Our sense of self shifts in order to step into that role. And so this feeling of self abandonment is Some of it's natural, and some of it's not negative. But if we don't recognize that we still need to look after us, That we still need to be able to take time out and ask for what we need, then that's gonna become You know, we can become a bit of a martyr about it. We can start to, you know, show up in ways that we're not proud of, and we can medium. We can do you know what I mean? Like, we can project that out. None of this can necessarily happens consciously, But over over time, we need to learn how to rewind that back and be like, hang on a second.
Megan Gibson [00:09:43]:
Like, I'd have nothing left to give. We're giving from this empty place of, you know, nothingness. It's just it's really, really hard to then turn around and to change that habit. And so I think that it's a bit of both. I think that it's natural, but then it can become unhealthy. And so the thing that makes it The thing that I think changes it into being something that needs addressing is the other things that we're not aware of about Like I said, this story about not being enough, this is not necessarily something that everyone turns to people pleasing. People do other things to try and fill that hole, but that's what I stepped into. And I and it's because I'm that natural nurturer.
Megan Gibson [00:10:32]:
And so, therefore, in order to Get to the bottom of it. We need to figure out what that limiting story is. Like, what's the origin of it? Like, why do we why do I think that about myself? So that we can it's never gonna go away, but we can be aware of it, and we can start to act consciously.
Mahara Wayman [00:10:51]:
You've said 2 things that I wanna highlight that I know.
Megan Gibson [00:10:55]:
You're trying to tell me. I was like, I need to stop talking.
Mahara Wayman [00:10:59]:
No. Just so okay. 2 things that you said that I think are really important that Yeah. That we talk about and highlight for the listening audience. Number 1, you said intention. Yeah. When we and just so you know, I always wanted to be a mom too. I have 2 kids, and I that's all I want.
Mahara Wayman [00:11:16]:
Didn't care about a marriage. I just wanted the babies. But we can chew when we do things with intention, it's easier to recognize the boundaries. And then you came back when you said consciously. And I'd like to just talk about the challenge of that because What's that saying? You know, best intent best laid plans or the best in you know, best intentions of mice and men. I I know I've got that quote wrong, so Please don't nobody send me hate mail because I misquoted. But I think it's worth talking about this idea that on the one hand, on a good day, Moms and women's worldwide have great intentions. I'm going to be loving and generous and present with my children or with my partner or with my life today.
Mahara Wayman [00:12:01]:
And then on the other hand, it can be we forget that intention actually is is an option, and we we are on automation. And we get into the habit of just do do do, you know, the busyness of the life that we lead. How did you How did you reconcile the 2? Because it's great to have the intention, but you still, to your point, have to be able to pull it back and and give yourself permission in that moment.
Megan Gibson [00:12:29]:
For me, it was stepping into Figuring out what is actually at the root of it. So, like, The step towards moving out of that way of being for me was a massive wake up call, to be honest. Like, when I turned 40 I was shoulding all over myself. I don't know if you've heard that before. I can't coin it because I don't know where I heard it either, but I I thought I should be happier. I should thought I should be wealthier. I thought I should be thinner. I thought I should be more in love.
Megan Gibson [00:13:05]:
I thought I should be all these things that I wasn't in my eyes. The funny thing is that everyone around me thought I was those things because that's the picture that I had been portraying. That's the that's the reality that I had been showing everybody else. But on the inside, those things felt Completely inauthentic to me because I didn't feel like that. But on the outside, there's this perfect persona. And so breaking down that was terrifying, I'm gonna say. I was exhausted from holding that perfect image up, But deciding to do something about the feeling that I had about it was terrifying. And it wasn't until I really started to look at What was going on there and what was driving that feeling that I was able to start undoing it? And so the things that actually helped were, like I said before, figuring out where that story originated.
Megan Gibson [00:14:00]:
Like, when did I decide that I wasn't good enough? It was a very, very young age, sadly. Very, very young age. I found the origin of that story. I started to really understand why I that way, and then I was able to make a conscious choice to reframe that so that I could move past it. Like I said, it's never going anywhere, but I now know why I feel that way. So when I feel that way, I have clarity, And then I'm able to make a different choice, and so there's that. The other thing is understanding the things that I value and the things that I want to have more of in my life, and why I wanna have those things also creates a lot of clarity. And when I say clarity, I mean a clarity of, like, a sense of who I actually am, not who I'd been pretending to be And not who I thought I should be for everybody else, but who I actually am.
Megan Gibson [00:15:00]:
The interesting thing is too, though, Some of the things that I had been pretending to be are actually who I am. That was a nice surprise. But now I got to actually step into them in an authentic way instead of, you know like I said, I'm an I do like to to make people happy. That's actually a really beautiful thing about me, But now I don't have that drive that I had there before. Now I do it because I want to, not because I feel like I have to. So it's about unpacking those things that, you know, that are in the way of us showing up and having that clarity and understanding of it.
Mahara Wayman [00:15:36]:
I think clarity is everything, and what I heard was that you learn first of all, it's very courageous to do that work. I've done it as well. But what I love about this work is that you're right. We're not changing the past, but we can change our relationship to the memory.
Megan Gibson [00:15:53]:
Yes.
Mahara Wayman [00:15:53]:
But it doesn't flatten us. Or even if you bring it out in the open, and you're like, wow. That in itself has has taken away so much of its power because you can at least identify it, have a conversation with that person, or just with the memory. And truly, you know, success is an inside job. Gabby Bernstein, I quote her all the time. And it's so it's so true. Whatever we want on the outside, We've gotta discover it on the inside first. And what I found is that it's already there.
Mahara Wayman [00:16:26]:
We just don't recognize it. You know, we have so much a a lifetime of I should only speak when I'm spoken to, or I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I don't have a university degree, so I can't charge you know, I can't go for that job because I don't have a degree or I can't charge x amount because I don't have I only have 1 certificate behind my name instead of 5 and all of these stories. I also love that you refer to it as stories because I do as well. I'm curious though when you when the day that you stopped pretending and you made that conscious decision to stop pretending. What was one of the first things that you said to yourself? Enough. Enough. Enough is enough?
Megan Gibson [00:17:14]:
Enough. I'm tired. I said I I can't do this anymore. Like, I just I just literally wanted to just drop everything and just I did really in a way. I just kind of, like, paused and just said enough. And to to they then turn that around and stop Being authentic, like, speaking. Like, just start actually saying what you're feeling. That's what I had to do.
Megan Gibson [00:17:47]:
And I was doing a lot of personal work at the time, which is what kind of, you know, woke me up, I guess. And the the the hardest part is stepping over that line and deciding to to have those breakthroughs and to have that transformation. Like, you've gotta have the breakdown first, And that's the hardest part, because true transformation. Like, there's change and then there's transformation. You know, like, when something changes, it just kind of, like, goes in a different direction. When something transforms like a butterfly, it's no longer a caterpillar anymore. It's a butterfly now. Like, it transforms into something else, but it has to go inside.
Megan Gibson [00:18:30]:
And, you know, I've never used this analogy. I quite like it. Has to go inside and and have that time and that pause and that Space to think and discover and you know? And then we come out, and and then we're the, you know, The transformed version, but that period of time is so difficult because you have to own a lot of things. You have to own the to take responsibility for the things that you've created as a as a result of you being that way, as a result of you pretending, and that can be really difficult for people to do. It's difficult for me to do. And the other thing that happens when you're then on the other out of that and you are starting to fly out in the world and be you is that it gives everyone around you permission to do the same thing. Like, when you're around somebody that's authentic, you can't help but be more authentic or want to be, at least. But The thing is the people that have known you to be a certain way for a really long time, they aren't always gonna like this newer version of you because it's uncomfortable for them because it was uncomfortable for you.
Megan Gibson [00:19:46]:
It was uncomfortable for you to go into that Cocooning into that space and that dark place and figure all that stuff out. It's terrifying, like I said before. And so people are gonna do 1 of 2 things. They're either going to go on that journey with you, or they're gonna try and pull you back into their comfort zone. And so that was the hardest part for me, was there were some painful goodbyes and some painful endings that I Didn't expect. But once I'd made that choice to choose myself and to show up that way, I had to continually make that choice every day because there was always gonna be something that I had to step over. There was many things I had to step over and into and through in order to get to where I am now.
Mahara Wayman [00:20:37]:
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Megan Gibson [00:21:31]:
Oh, yeah. A 100%. Eventually. And there's this other really interesting thing that happens when you start to Continually choose yourself and speak up and say what's real and stop pretending. Is that Have you heard of you've heard of momentum. Right? The momentum that comes from that, Eventually, it's like trying to push a car at first. It's really hard. And then after a while, the car starts moving, and then It's you're just effortless.
Megan Gibson [00:22:04]:
Just keep your head on it. Right? It's like the momentum that comes from continuously choosing To be real is phenomenal when you get that momentum. It's like the same thing in business. It's the same thing in anything. When you finally achieve that, you don't wanna give that up for anything because you know how hard it's gonna be to get it again.
Mahara Wayman [00:22:29]:
But what I think is what I think is so cool about what you said, I wanna go back to the difference between, and I like to difference between
Megan Gibson [00:22:37]:
I'm a bit of a storyteller too.
Mahara Wayman [00:22:40]:
I want to know one. But those of you that are listening, I I hope you caught the power When she explained the difference between change and transformation. Because we can we change we're constantly changing. But if you limit yourself to changing only, then you can change back. But if you honor yourself By stepping up into the opportunity to transform, you're transformed. You step over that line. And I just wanted to highlight that that's a really beautiful thing to to recognize. Of course, we change all the time.
Mahara Wayman [00:23:16]:
Life is always changing. But when we choose to transform, that's that's like, you know, 10xing a change because you're actually a different person. Now you're not we're not saying that you don't have the memories, that you changed your past, But you absolutely can change your future when you trans give yourself permission to sort of have a different relationship with yourself, with your memories, with your, You know, with your friends and with your family. I'm curious, though, now that it's been a few years And you have said goodbye to relationships that no longer served you, that were no longer meant to be on this path. Can you because people say this to me all the time. So I'm wondering if it happens to you, that you look back and go, I know exactly why I had you in my life. I know exactly why you were my best friend in high school. I know exactly why I hung with you at, you know, the PTA meetings.
Mahara Wayman [00:24:14]:
Are you at a point now where you can look back on those relationships and go, thank you. I know why?
Megan Gibson [00:24:19]:
Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, it's that saying, like, we can't choose our parents. We can't choose the Culture that we're brought in born into or whatever, like, those things are just you know, they're they're in our past and their experiences, and they shape us. And every single relationship shapes us as well, even the ones that we do choose, and we can't go back and change them. All we can do is recognize the value and the wisdom that we naturally gained as a result of relating to that person. And it's what we needed at the time or what we thought we needed at the time or whatever.
Megan Gibson [00:25:01]:
But the art of forgiveness, and it is an art, is something that if we wanna move forward in a way that's healthy and we wanna have a different reality and a different result in our new relationships or in our in our future, then we need To learn how to forgive not just the people who perhaps wronged us or, you know, were Not serving us in a way that was pleasant, but also ourselves. Like, learning to forgive ourselves for staying in those relationships or for choosing those relationships or those experiences or whatever. And for me, the best way to do that Is to reframe, like, unpack and repack those things in a way that allow you to see them differently. That'll allow you to see them in for the for the value that they brought you. Because we are a Who we are, our sense of self, is actually made up of everything we've ever been through. It's like we are the result of our choices. We are the product of the choices that we've made and the experiences we've had and the relationships. I mean, that's where we learn the most.
Megan Gibson [00:26:21]:
I believe we learn the most out of relating to another human being in one way or another, and so we need to recognize the value there. But I do feel like forgiveness is a big part of it.
Mahara Wayman [00:26:32]:
I agree a 100% on the forgiveness. What I found quite distracting in my journey was understanding how judgmental I am. And I will be the 1st to admit that when, I'm a certified mastery method coach, and we came upon this. This was our module all about judgments, and I kinda stuck my nose up. I'm like, oh, really easy. I'm Totally open. I accept. I'm really all of these.
Mahara Wayman [00:26:59]:
You know? And then, of course, we got into the module. I'm like, I'm so judgmental. Like, oh my god. I'm so judgmental. And I've to me, that was a very difficult Want to wrap my head around and then to work on a regular basis. And it's it I bring I bring it up because it's all tied into forgiving. Right? When we can look at somebody without judgment, There's no need to forgive because we don't have judgment attached to it. And the challenge because when I first started doing this work, I was thinking, oh, I am so judging of others.
Mahara Wayman [00:27:31]:
You know, naughty bad bad Maharaj. And then one day, I went, God. I'm so judgmental of myself. Like, how do I get out of bed in the morning with all this crap that's going on in my head? So if anybody listening has never thought of a life coach or coaching or think doesn't know anything about coaching. This is a great podcast for you to be listening to because both Meghan and I are coaches, and it sounds like we have very similar Takes on what it means to do the hard work, do the deep work, but know that You are know that you're amazing just the way that you are, and that life has happened for you, not to you, Even if you're in a bad spot. Even if you are listening to this podcast going, oh my god. I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow. Like, I'm so lost.
Mahara Wayman [00:28:27]:
It's okay. You're in a good you're o you're gonna be okay, and you can with some help Either by a life coach or counseling or whatever, there is help for you because all of us have the ability to sit, Hand on heart, breathe, and ask yourself some tough questions. It may not feel good, but that's okay because chances are you've already experienced a lot of things That didn't feel good. I experienced a lot in my life that didn't feel good. I just pretended it felt okay, or I I pooh poohed it away. Oh, it's no big deal. I got sidetracked, but really understanding how judgmental we are. And once we once we understand that, how easy it can be To forgive ourselves, others, and to really be present in the moment.
Mahara Wayman [00:29:16]:
Life is different. It is Completely different. So I think I digressed a bit, but I just wanted to touch on that judgment slash forgiveness piece because It has played a huge role in my world. Yeah. So Absolutely. Let's take a breath And talk about where we're at today. So you stopped pretending around your 40th birthday. You had our come to Jesus wake up call on your life.
Mahara Wayman [00:29:46]:
You had some difficult conversations with yourself about why you were feeling the way that you did, which was exhausted and from pretending so much. And you made some changes. Where are you today?
Megan Gibson [00:30:01]:
Yeah. Well, today, my life looks completely different. I mean, it's been 4 to 5 years of I'm 45 now. Sorry. It is 5 years, of Really getting honest with myself. And like I said before, the momentum is exciting. And so now I find myself I'm in an a beautiful relationship with an amazing man who got to meet me. And I love telling this story because a year ago, almost of the day, almost of the week, we decided that we would be in a serious relationship together.
Megan Gibson [00:30:41]:
So we'd met a couple of weeks before that, but I was at a point where I was like, I've been dating. I'd had, you know, Other, smaller, shorter relationships over that time, but I just got to this point where I was like, I I'm tired of being told I'm too much because I did get told that for a few times. I was out out of there because I was, like, being expressed as being me. I was, like, I don't care, you know. I got tired of that because it was making me question myself. And I've reached this point where I was like, I am just gonna be me. I'm just gonna say it how it is. I'm gonna show up as this too much version, whatever that means.
Megan Gibson [00:31:23]:
And if I meet someone and they love that, great. And if I don't, I am gonna have a relationship with me for the rest of my life that I love. And about 2 weeks after making that decision, I met Luke. And the interesting thing was that he'd been on a similar journey And had been on his own for 6 months and just decided that he was happy that way. Now we'll both tell you that's it was probably not really how we wanted it to be, but we'd accepted that. And so we met each other, and we were authentic and real, and we had Very vulnerable conversations very early on because we really just were like, this is either gonna be or not be. And he got to meet me, Like, actually me. No holds barred.
Megan Gibson [00:32:06]:
Nothing in the way. And I can't tell you how amazing it feels To be learning to relate to somebody because every new relationship has that curve. Right? Learning to relate to someone with nothing in the way. Is it always easy? No. Between us, we have 7 children. He has 4. I have 3. It's busy.
Megan Gibson [00:32:27]:
There's always something. Right? There's always something going on with 1 of them that we, you know, talking about and moving through and deciding what to do and working together on, and it's beautiful because I can say what I need to say. He could say what he needs to say. And so that's where I'm at relationship wise. Like, it's incredible. And I want that for everybody because it's Just the most freeing thing to be able to just get up in the morning and just show up And be loved. You know? Like, really loved for that. And so yeah.
Megan Gibson [00:33:08]:
Like So that's really cool. And then business, like, from my business side of things or a coaching side of things, I'm so clear on What I believe works and what the process is to get to where I am now, That that is also becoming effortless in a way that I know what I wanna Like, right now with you, this is not something that I'm just channeling this from the truth. Right? It's not there. There's no script. There's no It just is, and it's freeing. And so that is exactly where I'm at. It's freed. It's freed, and I say freed with a d because It's on the other side of that work or on the other side of this choice to do the work where that true freedom is.
Megan Gibson [00:34:01]:
So that's where I'm at now. You
Mahara Wayman [00:34:04]:
know? Thank you. And guys listening, this is what it this is all This is what it means to be badass. It's not and it's really interesting because my mother-in-law has said a couple times, I don't like that word. Why wouldn't you wanna be badass? She's an older you know, a little bit older. Well, she's 20 years older. But and I've been explaining to her that really, Today in my world, being a badass is just exactly what you said. It is freeing. It is It's I I feel so much lighter when I am myself.
Mahara Wayman [00:34:41]:
And when we are ourselves, that's when Our energy that we're putting out, it's attracting the like energy. So when we are fearful and pretending and stayed and, I'm angry. That's the energy that we're putting out to the world, and I fully believe that's what we bring back. And so it becomes like a catch 22. We don't know how to break out of that cycle. Typically, we get to a point where we're so damn miserable, like the day you realized that you didn't you were too tired to pretend anymore. That That's the beginning of of our journey of transformation. But when we every step we take closer to ourselves is a giant step closer to ourselves.
Mahara Wayman [00:35:22]:
So I just wanna make sure I want people out there realize that, you know, this doesn't happen overnight. You may pretend. Oh my god. I'm gonna take off my bra and burn it, and I'm a free woman. This is a skinny. Right? Well, I'm just on a side note,
Megan Gibson [00:35:37]:
it That's a good analogy.
Mahara Wayman [00:35:39]:
It drives me crazy that I still hot summer day in Alberta. I wanna go and walk the dog, and I have to put on a bra. And I'm like, do I? Do I really? And I'm telling you Yeah. Weeks ago, I had this conversation with myself in my bedroom. I don't wanna wear a bra, goddamn it. I'm like, well, they're just nipples. Like, guys have nipples. Like, why do I still feel? So I didn't put on a bra, And I walk for you.
Mahara Wayman [00:36:04]:
And it was great until the 1 dog started to run, and I had to run with the dog. And I'm like, damn it. That's why you wear a bra, Mahara. You're 58 years old almost. You shouldn't be running down the sidewalk chasing your golden retriever puppy without a bra on. Oh, there's a little bit of TMI in my life, but still, it does get easier when we can be Honest about who we are because no matter what, when you peel away all of the misunderstandings and the stories And get right down to it. You're amazing. I'm amazing.
Mahara Wayman [00:36:42]:
And we've done amazing things within our world. Sure. We've made mistakes, but they're only a mistake if you don't learn from it. One of the things I love about being on this journey is that I now can look at Opportunities for growth versus I fucked up. Right? I didn't fuck up. Yeah. But I created the most amazing opportunity for growth. Let me share it with you so you don't have to go through that experience.
Mahara Wayman [00:37:07]:
And I can look at it with tongue in cheek and a little bit of levity, which it sounds like you've managed to do that as well. So I wanna thank you so much for sharing your story with us. You mentioned a book to me earlier. Are you finished writing the book?
Megan Gibson [00:37:22]:
I wish I could say yes. I am, but no. No worries. It's interesting. It's interesting because for I think I've been writing it for 6 years, and it's this year is the year I've decided to finish it. And you know what was in the way of me finishing it? Being perfect, Be getting it right. So that's what it's all about. It's about that journey, and, yeah, It's happening.
Mahara Wayman [00:37:50]:
I love your honesty. I love your honesty. So you have got guys, I'm gonna put all of her information in the show notes because, of course, I want you to check her out in You know, for yourself. But you do have a podcast that people can listen to. I'm gonna be your newest follower. You Thank you. Do you offer group coaching, or is it 1 on 1 coaching or both?
Megan Gibson [00:38:10]:
Both. So, yeah, I have a a brand new community, depending on when this, show airs. But, just this week, I opened up a group space where I could support people Stepping into that space and staying in the space of choosing themselves. So I'd love, yeah, you can share that if you want. But, yeah, I feel like It's important that we have people around us that are gonna support us on that journey and keep us in the the space of transformation because, like I said before, it's so easy to step
Mahara Wayman [00:38:41]:
Yeah. I grew up in group coaching. I mean, not grew up, but that's that's my jam. So I understand the magic of being in a group. There it really is magical because on the days that you don't think you have anything to contribute, those are the days that you're gonna get something exactly what you needed. Right? And on the days you are just brimming with enthusiasm, that's the day that somebody else in the group really needed to to be there and to hear you. So, I love that you are starting a group program. That is brilliant.
Mahara Wayman [00:39:14]:
Is there anything that we don't know about you, Megan, that you'd like our listeners to listeners to know before we sign off.
Megan Gibson [00:39:21]:
Oh, There's lots. Well, in thinking about that might actually be interesting.
Mahara Wayman [00:39:30]:
You're not a dancer. There's something out of her. Whatever.
Megan Gibson [00:39:34]:
Well, I am actually a hairdresser by trade. I started a hairdressing at 15, and that is where my love of People began. I was terrified of them at first, to be completely honest with you. I just couldn't believe some of the things that people told me willingly. But after a while, I realized no one actually knows who the heck they are. And I've worked with people closely my entire life, and I've just become more and more and more fascinated with this humanness that that we all have to to deal with. And so I just want us to be better better at it. You know? And, that's where that That's where that love of people started.
Megan Gibson [00:40:14]:
That probably the biggest thing I can share with you that that we haven't said already.
Mahara Wayman [00:40:20]:
Well, thank you so much, Megan. I've loved chatting with you, and we're we are gonna do this again. I don't know whether it's gonna be on your podcast or I'm gonna my podcast, but we are just too aligned. We are just too aligned to not have more conversations about this. Those of you that are listening, thank you for joining in Today to the art of badassery. I hope that you took away some nuggets that my guest shared today, because there were lots of them, check the show notes again. As I said, my name is Mahara. This has been the Art of Badassery podcast, And please do share the podcast with anybody that you think would benefit from this because Meaghan and I are both determined to make a difference in the world.
Mahara Wayman [00:41:00]:
Yeah. We'll see you next week. Thank you for tuning in to the art of badassery. I I hope you enjoyed today's episode and gained valuable insights to help unleash your inner badass. If you found this cast helpful. Please leave a rating or review on your favorite platform. Your feedback not only helps me improve the show, but it also helps others like yourself discover the Cask. Until next time, keep embracing your authenticity and living life on your terms.
Mahara Wayman [00:41:36]:
Here's to you.
