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Mahara Wayman [00:01:47]:
And today, my guest is Sharon Rose. Sharon was born in the early seventies on the East Coast and is the youngest of 4 in a Polish American family. Drawn to nature from a young age, she pursued an undergraduate degree in women's studies, sociology, and cultural anthropology. Her career has been dedicated to supporting women living with domestic violence coming from low income situations, teens, and immigrant mothers. A woman of many talents, Sharon has explored midwifery, dance, herbology, and writing, earning numerous certifications. She's authored books, edited a parenting publication, and currently engages in creative writing for AI development. Her work focuses on helping women reclaim their authentic lives by connecting deeply with their bodies and their nervous systems. Now living in Portland, Oregon on an urban farm with her partner and 3 boys, Sharon enjoys holistic cooking, hiking, and connecting with nature.
Mahara Wayman [00:02:45]:
Join us as we do a deep dive into her incredible journey and uncover her wisdom and her strength. Sharon, welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have this conversation.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:02:55]:
Thank you, Mahara. I'm so blessed to be here with
Mahara Wayman [00:03:00]:
you. Wow. We, we got lost a little bit, folks, when we before I hit the record button, just talking about stuff. And I'm like, stop. Stop. Let's talk about that in the podcast. But before we jump into that particular line of inquiry, can you take us back to your upbringing and how being, in that family and in that location may have may have affected your choices for school and and other things?
Sharon Ann Rose [00:03:25]:
Yes. So I was the youngest of 4 girls, and I recall just yearning to be like my sisters. You know? The youngest child always does, and when you're from a same gender, there's a whole another layer and level of that, and it can also get really complicated. So I feel like I was born into, 1, researching women, you know, truly being like, what's going on there? And I wanna be like them. And why do they seem really unhappy? And why are they potentially you know, I would, have conversations with my sisters so I would know their deeper hearts, and then to see them in the world was you know, there was a split. And I too felt that, you know, in my own body as well. And so I think that really cultivated for me this understanding that what we present in the world is not always what's deeply happening inside of us. And as a child, I was pretty quiet.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:04:26]:
I was way more comfortable out in the out in the woods with the trees, on my own, with nature and creatures. It was often pretty challenging for me. I felt an immense density, and ache when I was around humans. And I recall, you know, people saying, well, what are you gonna be when you grow up? And I would say, I just wanna work with plants, animals, and children because in all honesty, that was when I felt most authentic in myself. And, otherwise, I was quite confused with who I was or if what I was feeling was me, and, it was very challenging to kind of find that center in myself because I was just feeling absorbing, you know, everything from everybody and every environment. And then as, you know, kind of a a natural born badass, I wanted to transform it. You know? And I could feel things were off and people were unhappy at that, you know, developmental stage of of life. It was like, oh, they're unhappy.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:05:31]:
I wanna make it better. And then I I really couldn't. I tried for most of my life. I tried. And then, you know, certainly now as I've gotten older, it's like, you can't, you know, you can't change others nor would you ever want to. You know? So
Mahara Wayman [00:05:48]:
Thank you for painting that picture. I'm so curious that you used the words dense and ache. Can you tell us can you describe that a little bit more? Because that's a fairly sophisticated description, I think. And I I wanna make sure that that I understand and can really step into the shoes of young Sharon. Tell us more about this feeling of heaviness and denseness and aching that was some kind of separation that you were feeling.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:06:18]:
Yes. You know, so from a child perspective, it was so somatic. You know? And as I've gotten older and and done all the work I've done, you know, to be able to peel those layers apart then to go back, you know, even right now as you're speaking and just to remember. It was this, like, I want whatever's in my body out. I just want it out because it was so challenging to hold something so vast and deep and filled with grief, you know, is is I wouldn't have known it then. I guess sadness might have been the best, but also a feeling of of being bad, of being wrong, of being, never what I was supposed to be doing, that I should have been something other. And, you know, from a a a pretty young age, you know, so I'm in my fifties now. And I think, certainly, for example, eating disorders were deaf have been on the rise for a very, very long time, but I had one.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:07:18]:
I had, bulimia when I was 8 8 9 years old, and nobody knew. Nobody knew. So, again, it was this really interesting. Everyone was like, oh, Sharon's such a bright, happy being. I was like, oh my god. No. I wanted what was in me out because it was too much. It was just too much for my system.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:07:40]:
And as I've gotten older, you know, certainly those things that are so heavy and dense, almost always, they're ancestral. Almost always. You know what I mean? We come in very light, very porous, and then these things that, you know, we were not designed at that stage in age of life to manage can really weigh us down, really weigh us down. So
Mahara Wayman [00:08:04]:
Thank you. Thank you for explaining that. And, I'm wondering, do you recall at what age or maybe just a certain experience where you were able to finally articulate that heaviness? Because you're right. When we're young, we don't know. We just feel it. Right? We just don't feel good. But, you know, was this was this something that came about in your studies when you were doing your your undergraduate degree, or did it come out earlier than that maybe as a teenager? So shed a light on on the awakening, shall we say.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:08:33]:
I feel like, you know, the awakening is a lifetime experience, and I certainly recall these you know, so I think what my journey was was how do I find ways to get out of that density? So I was someone very early on in high school. I started studying meditation. Loved it because I could just whoosh, you know, and I could go there fast, quick, and dissolve into it. I was someone who lived oneness, you know, but not necessarily in a healthy way because I wasn't yet established in my own identity. I was more like, please anything but having to feel this. So, you know, right away from high school, I was having these more out of body awakening. So it would be natural that I would gravitate towards those kind of studies and experiences, and I was always studying meditation. You know, these these deep kind of, beautiful places that were allowing my mind to touch upon beauty, you know, true beauty and other dimensions.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:09:40]:
And I don't say that in, like, an intergalactic way. I say that in a sincere, you know, the dimensions of the earth, for example. Like, that I could touch that and feel what river feels like or I could touch tree, you know, and I mean energetically, and I could go into the tree. And I'll never forget, you know, and and, you know, so those were certainly beautiful awakenings of, greater consciousness and a oneness. And my shamanic teacher, I recall a session where she said, Sharon, you know, because she was going in with me. She's like, how are you going to handle that you can't see yourself separate? Because I think I had an image came up of a flower or something. She was, how are you gonna work with understanding you are not that flower? And I broke down crying, like, no. Please please don't make me do that.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:10:36]:
And I would say from that point, and in all honesty, I didn't physically feel it in my body, this deep individuation until I birthed. It was during the pregnancy of my youngest son, and I was 40. And it was that pregnancy that opened me to, yeah, you know, these higher consciousness places are gorgeous, but guess what? You gotta come here. You gotta come here into your body, into the earth, and be with this for who you are as a woman, not as some, like, floating I am one with all, but, no, this is Sharon. And guess what? Sharon's body is connected to the trees and is connected to her baby and is connected to higher consciousness in a way that I will remain here, here in life dedicated in service to a deeper embodiment, especially of the female form because it it knows how to do that organically and instinctually. Not that it's easy, not that we, you know, intellectually know Thank you for that for that explanation or or sharing your out of that.
Mahara Wayman [00:11:46]:
Thank you for that for that explanation or or sharing your wisdom on that. And what I heard and what I think many of our listeners will will relate to is the complexity of accepting both. Right? Because I happen to believe that we are spiritual beings having a human existence. So there is a part of us that is completely connected, knows all, and is, you know, very centered and grounded and aligned and loving and comes from a place of true understanding and oneness. But then there's the other part that is living right here in the moment and, you know, going through menopause and struggling with this and and questioning that. And
Sharon Ann Rose [00:12:25]:
when we're
Mahara Wayman [00:12:25]:
on this journey, and this is me personally, I waver back and forth. I haven't found that that easy place of full integration or understanding or acceptance. I love the idea, and I talk about it and I explore it. But it is a I feel for me, it's a constant back and forth. Right? So I really applaud that you're able to articulate that you well, it took 40 and and giving birth to sort of see that see that absolute crystal clarity of of your being. So exciting. I wanna go back to your your childhood, though, youngest of 4 girls. What did your older sisters did they see you as anything different than them? And what was the relationship like as you as you continue to sort of grow up amidst a a mirroring of what you saw in them, if that makes sense?
Sharon Ann Rose [00:13:21]:
Yeah. You know, so one of the key areas that I was naturally, drawn to through my work was healing the wound of sisterhood because I lived it. And so, you know, with my sisters in the beginning, it was just like, we're sisters, you know, and all the things that come with that. And then there was a it's, again, nuanced. It's complicated. It's subtle. And being the youngest, there was comparison. There was, I don't wanna quite say competition, youngest and you you're the youngest and you've got it the easiest and, you know, mom and dad give you whatever you want, and me sitting there going, are you fucking kidding me? Like, that's not my reality.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:14:15]:
And then, you know, realizing all the complications with that. And then, you know, in my family, there is mental illness on both sides. So there was, you know, the ripenings of that that I got to witness in one of my sisters. That was very traumatizing for me because she was actually sort of sort of like a emotionally surrogate mother for me because my mother had deep trauma when she was young. Her father literally unexpectedly dropped dead when she was, 12 years old. So there was always for her this ache, you know, of father, you know, that hunger for father and protection and and all those things. So it was challenging for her to be emotionally present. And so then I had this other sister who really showed up and saw me spiritually, you know, as a in a a young age.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:15:04]:
And then, yeah, it was around early teens, 11, 12, 13, that she had a nervous breakdown. And suddenly, I saw her turn from being, you know, this protector of me to literally being my, wanting to destroy me. You know? And and just, like, all those interesting things that get complicated because, one, it's a mental game, but it's also a heart crucifixion for for lack of a better word. And and I had you know, I was so close with another one of my sisters and then due to our each of our own, spiritual journeys, they were very like, you even just said, one was, hers was so about elevation. She's a yogini, and and then mine at that time was really going in deep into the feminine body of the earth. So we you know, to this day, we don't really talk anymore, and I never would have known that, you you know, would have come or would have happened. And it's not I can feel we have devotion towards each other, but we don't hold that earthly sisterhood like we used to. So all these, interactions with my sisters caused me to see the path of woman to woman, sister to sister, whether blood related or soul connected, heart connected, is so intricate, and it's one of our deepest platforms for coming home to the wholeness in ourselves and our own self love and appreciation, because women, historically, you know, certainly in my lifetime, all the influences of competition and the very imbalanced ways of, working together and lack of collaboration, has created, you know, so much anxiety and, people combating each other in a really, really deep emotional and psychic ways.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:17:06]:
And so that takes delicacy to unwind that and realize each woman is unique and, you know, there's that yearning when women come together. We just wanna melt to because we know how. And then to really be able to, you know, apply other principles to respect one another, our choices, our paths, and and learn to be our own full bodied woman, you know, and to support each other in in really healthy ways, really, really healthy ways.
Mahara Wayman [00:17:36]:
Yeah. So so juicy. And I'm I'm wondering if there was a time when let me let me rephrase this. Was there a time where you experienced any sort of guilt that this that your initial sisterhood with your sisters was changing and dismantling because we we we're we are raised in a society that says family is everything. Right? You gotta be best friends with your siblings. Come on. Don't you talk to them every day? You know, there's a I feel that there's a pressure for many of us to have this lifelong close relationship with siblings. And I'm just curious if there was a time when you felt that pressure to to keep it rather than allow it to grow to the place where it is today.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:18:18]:
Yeah. I I feel pretty teary about that one. I think forever, there will be, you know, insincerity and ache. You know, like, when you call forward the youngest daughter of 4, there's an ache. I really envisioned that I would be, you know, arm in arm with my sisters to to the end. And even with with this one sister who, you know, we don't really speak anymore, I she and I had talked about, like, creating a business together. We even lived together for for long stretches of time, and we would joke because we always always, like, drew black cats to us. Like, at one point, there was the 2 of us living together, and we had 3 black cats.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:18:59]:
And we're like, oh, we're gonna be the sister witches. And, you know, so there's this place of, oh my god. That is as far from my reality now. And, certainly, there was guilt of what could I have done differently by especially because I am more honest with myself now, and we aren't close. So there's that painful place of, oh, to choose myself, you know, over sisterhood. There's nothing easy about that. That is like throwing yourself on the fire, your you know, on your own. Do you know? Like, saying, yeah, burn me to the ground because what I must be doing must not be okay.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:19:45]:
You know? And it's taken a long time to be with that ache, to come to terms with that ache, to no longer judge that ache, to realize in my particular journey and situation, it was just a path, that was required from my maturation. I had to choose, again, me, which, again, those words can be complicated. You know, even that is is is tricky to say because is it that I'm chewing choosing individual Sharon? No. I'm choosing what I just spoke of, what it means to be healthy in this particular life that I was given and created and and am living and how my body responds sincerely, authentically to relationships with others based on who they their body, you know what I mean, is doing, creating, and feeling. So, yeah, it's so nuanced, and I don't know that the ache I mean, the ache is so much softer now. The guilt is definitely has a different name and face, and and then there's heartache. And then there's like, oh, I wonder you know, and I really let go. So what you said about I wanted I would go to hold the family together at all costs until my father passed away.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:21:09]:
And when my father passed away, it was like something just moved through me and said that role is done now. You don't have to be the one to hold the family together. And it was visceral and somatic, and I and then it took a couple years to integrate that and and to not judge or feel guilty of putting down that, you know, what I thought I needed to do for the rest of my
Mahara Wayman [00:21:33]:
life. Okay. Wow. Two things spring to mind that I'd like to I'd like to explore further. First of all, I do wanna explore somatics with you because it may it's a term that not everybody may be familiar with. But I before we do that, let's talk about this the the challenge of judgment. And as human beings, we are born into judgment, I think. And we spend a lifetime I spend I I know I'm spending my lifetime navigating judgment for myself, for others.
Mahara Wayman [00:22:01]:
Only fairly recently in my life did I even really understand judgment. I I really didn't. It was just a word. And I think, to be honest, as I was growing up, it was more of a biblical term. You know? But when it when I was studying and getting my certification as a mastery method coach, we we studied judgment at length. And I remember, wow, my eyes were opened, and I kinda gobsmacked. Like, oh my god. I got your day.
Mahara Wayman [00:22:27]:
I'm constantly in judgment. My husband says that. I roll my eyes. I'm judging him. And it wasn't until I did a it wasn't until I had the courage to question and actually and actually engage in conversation from a place of truth that I realized I was judging. He's like, I didn't say that. And I'm like, but that's what you said. He's like, no.
Mahara Wayman [00:22:48]:
No. No. That's what you heard. And I'm like, damn him. He's a smarty pants. I'm the one studying coaching. Like but it was so interesting. So talk to me about the experience of of of recognizing judgment in your life and how where you now place it or where it stands in your life today.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:23:06]:
Mhmm. You know, so I don't know if you know anything about Gene Keys. It's a, it comes out of human design, but my literal life path is judgment is judgment. So when I originally, you know, was working with my gene keys and getting all into it and being like, oh, and I saw that. I'm like, you've gotta be kidding. That's so far from what my journey is. That's I don't judge. I'm one of the most kind, understanding, compassionate people out there.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:23:37]:
So, bam, was that, like, talking about being gobsmacked. I'm like, oh, I gotta start looking at this. And, you know, my husband and kids and family would be the first to go, are you, like, are you so blind? And then I went, oh, you know, and I remember that moment when I even heard in my voice, the way you behave with the outer world is the way you need to understand how to behave with those in your closest circle, meaning my my husband and my kids. And I'm like, ah, ouch. And then as I started to take that back, you know, again, that was this huge cycle of my life where it hurts so much to realize anything I was projecting on my carrying and not acknowledging in myself. So that's when the work on judgment really began in all earnest, and that was probably 10 years ago where I wholeheartedly said, oh, let me see, you know, the judgments in myself, and may I keep unwinding those every day and learning to hold them for me so that I don't you know? Because it's so uncomfortable someone else, then that originates in me.
Mahara Wayman [00:24:44]:
And how am
Sharon Ann Rose [00:24:45]:
I gonna just sit with this and do nothing with it for sure? And how am I gonna just sit with this and do nothing with it? For sure, first, just feel it and then feel how much it causes, 1, an inner split with your own, you know, self compassion, self care, self kindness, and then the bravery it takes to start riding with those inner judgments and when they show up going, oh, okay. That's that's not how I wanna be. That's not okay with me. How am I gonna hold this differently so it can dissolve and it can soften? And then 1, I don't judge the judgment. Like, I'll always say that with women. Don't judge your judgment because then you're gonna go to battle with it and, like, sit there with the, you know, the armor, the hammer, everything, and be like, I gotta beat you out of me. No. That's never gonna be how judgment dissolves.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:25:43]:
It will be, look at me. Look at what's walked inside of your brain, your body. And then if we, you know, pull the somatics in, look what this has literally done to your organs, to the way you feel things, to the way you, that lens you were talking about where someone says something to you and you hear something so different because, again, of all this inner the inner landscape of what's been building over certainly your own lifetime and then some where it's a form of removing you so far from what is actually standing right in front of you very clearly, you know, but but but we can't see that because we're listening and believing all the backlog of stuff that's literally held in ourselves and our tissues.
Mahara Wayman [00:26:32]:
So so good. And one of the things that comes up a lot in my work is because you're right. Often when when we are awakened to the concept of judgment, we immediately go, that's it. I don't wanna do that anymore. I'm not gonna do that anymore, and I'm bad for doing it. So I'm gonna work really hard to not be judgmental. And what I say to my clients, and I try to say it to myself is, hey. This is a great opportunity.
Mahara Wayman [00:26:55]:
This is neither good or bad until unless you make it so. It's an opportunity to understand yourself better and make a choice because that's what we're here for. I think our our life our lives, we're here to learn and grow, and we we have choices every step along the way. And recognizing judgments is the first thing. 1st, you gotta be aware of it and then accept it and then take action. Once you decide where you wanna do you wanna feel like this? Do you want to explore it some more? And if you don't wanna feel like this, then what can you do to sort of safeguard the next time that situation comes up? You know, the next time your daughter looks at you and flips you the bird, for example. Right? Or the next time that your husband says, is that what you're wearing? Can I just share? That drives me crazy. No.
Mahara Wayman [00:27:42]:
I'm not wearing this. I'm actually wearing something else. Like, what do you mean is that what I'm wearing? Of course, I'm wearing it. I'm wearing it. We're heading out the door. This is what I'm wearing. So I digress. But you know what I mean.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:27:54]:
Right? This little op
Mahara Wayman [00:27:56]:
and comment. Wholeheartedly.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:27:58]:
Wholeheartedly. Okay.
Mahara Wayman [00:27:59]:
So let's dive into the somatic stuff because you just you gave a perfect segue that our judgments are reflected in our body, in our being. Can you explain that a little bit more?
Sharon Ann Rose [00:28:10]:
Mhmm. Yes. Yeah. So going back to that, you know, symbology of literally having a back log. You know? So so everything gets imprinted. Everything. Everything we think, everything we do, everything we speak, it gets imprinted on our cellular makeup and then all of that that represents, which is our physical being, our physical form. And so as we choose to, you know, really come you know? And, again, I always do this sort of gesture.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:28:42]:
For me, it's that feeling when you're when you go in and and you're often, like, literally going through the layers and feeling and and going into the density. So this is that healthy experience of density versus the density of sadness, grief, and pain, which isn't unhealthy. But when you're going into the density of your being where all this information has been stored, You know, this is that relationship to your own somatic nature. And then, you know, you begin to feel that and and bringing judgment back in, we can really hit the realm of our own somatic being when we stop judging our feelings, and we just feel. That's, like, our our somatic place. And then when we can, you know, exist from that and have a relationship with how, you know, I'm, glancing out. I I have a beautiful window at my desk over the backyard with the beautiful trees and the sky, and and I often use nature. For me, it's one of the most pristine examples of somatics where people can get confused.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:29:52]:
It it doesn't mean you're completely obliterating your intellect and your understanding. It means you let it be there, but in the background so that the feeling nature, you know, can come forward and inform you of how your particular system in this moment is experiencing life and also giving you information from the past so that you can, like you said, make choice without the criticizing, you know, self abnegation and judgment, but from this this place of, oh, I am this being on this planet in this moment, and this is the choice I'm gonna make from this feeling nature. Not that the feeling nature needs to guide us, and it's really, imperative when we're working with our somatic self to say, and I want you to have space in the equation versus, like you said, the, you know, the the pushing things to the background or under the rug when we can say, oh, I I realized that little girl in me, for example, in my own personal journey. One of the biggest ones is I was often pushing myself in my work to be seen, to, you know, be out there, social media, published a book, you know, was was doing these things to put my work out there. My little girl, you know, until recently, until I really welcomed her on board somatically, was in the background terrified, crying, begging me without me hearing her, please please don't do this. I'm not okay. I'm not ready. I you know, all the things, being so fearful of all the things that might happen, and I was so good at, again, pushing that aspect of the somatic information away that I wasn't I wasn't including that in the that whole body, the, you know, the rich, choices that can come from honesty.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:31:51]:
Again, going back to being a badass, like, it's a badass for me to listen to her and not not to allow her to drive the show, but to realize that she has somatic information that until I bring online with my present reality, I will be constantly doing contortions with what is real and authentic and true for me in my life.
Mahara Wayman [00:32:17]:
Thank you for sharing that with us. And as you were talking, I I couldn't help but think and and that's why I'm gonna ask, what is the connection between recognizing our somatic experience and what people call intuition? Because I'm wondering if they get confused, if they're the same, there's if they can be separated. I feel most of my things are in my belly. If I feel happy, it's in my belly. If I feel anxious, it's in my belly. If I'm frightened or or afraid, it's everything seems to be centered right here in my in my tummy. And that's also where I I consciously say that my intuition comes from. It doesn't really.
Mahara Wayman [00:32:56]:
Really, when I think about it, it's it's everything. Like, I just know. It's just a knowing. It's not it's not it from my belly. But I'm wondering what is the connection, if any, between the 2?
Sharon Ann Rose [00:33:05]:
Mhmm. Yeah. That's gorgeous. So it's such a beautiful question and really insightful. And, you know, I think in my own experience of working with others and and my personal journey, and, again, these are not easy answers. These are us discovering our own unwinding through you know, till the till the moment we die. And there's there's not this easy quick, like, oh, this is intuition, and this is back logged information that's causing your body to react to the trauma and terror and all the other things it feels. And then, like you said, once you feel it, like, I can tell you there's there's very specific circumstances when I went, that's my knowing.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:33:53]:
That's my intuition. And then each time I acknowledge that and make a choice out of that, it keeps clarifying that relationship because like you said, it's often for me too as well. It's this, like, fiery ignition that I go, and that's also my trauma. Do you know what I mean? That fiery, hot, you know, palpable place, which which for me is often related to shame. So sometimes it's, you know, like this, guiding me into a very whole body BS, and it's nuanced. And so as I get older and especially go through menopause, you know, the the deep fire initiation of menopause, it is showing me and clarifying for me the more that I listen and and and even take off the burden of, I gotta figure this out, and I gotta figure this out now. And that was me at 20. Like, I gotta figure out how to be, you know, fully enlightened, authentic, all of it now.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:34:57]:
And the more that I've let that go and said, alright. This is what we're all doing here, each in our own unique way and framework of coming to a deeper understanding of how our systems have translated our lives and what is, how whatever we call that energy of intuition, whether we call it, you know, guidance from a higher power, a universal wisdom, our own knowing, like, we are the only ones who can come forward and go, ah, that's what it is. And that's somatics. Like, that's you feeling like, oh, this is not just all my trauma being like, go there. Don't go there. You need to do this or whatever. That's this moment of this is when everything in me is so aligned that this is my next right step. It and and it's so clear.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:35:50]:
And then and then we have to make choices out of that because I even just had it. You for me, for example, money can be, just a really deep platform always for me to work with. And I recently had something where, you know, I set a price, someone was questioning me, etcetera, and I just could feel because I had felt the accuracy of that price initially. I took time to feel it in my body. I took time to, like, do the, you know, the the whole processes I do to go what's accurate and true and right for this, service. And then it when it when the other person questioned me, I was like, oh, you know, feel free to explore around elsewhere. This is accurate, you know, amount for my for my price and service. And I had 0 do you know what I mean? 0 worries, 0 shame, 0 guilt, 0, like normally, I'd be like, oh, yeah.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:36:42]:
Let me meet you part way. I'm so good at that. And that's actually not collaboration. That's caving into, the traumatized me, you know, who wanted so much to, uplift others and value what they had to say. And by doing it, I was, you know, decompressing myself and devaluing myself. So, again, once we feel that and we know exactly what it is, our system lets us know We can continue to make those choices out of that feeling in those situations or relationships that are causing us to shake and quake a little bit and bring forward past, you know, past doubt and and fear and shame.
Mahara Wayman [00:37:22]:
Oh, so so good. As you were sharing that, I realized for me, 2 big differences. First of all, I can so relate to the money story. One of the first times that I shared when I first started working for myself and I I shared my my program and my pricing with someone on a call, they burst out laughing and said, you're joking me right. And I it was a Zoom meeting. I gave, like, a a complimentary session, and I was absolutely shattered. And I just froze. I had no idea how to because I was just not coming from a place of authenticity and and strength at all.
Mahara Wayman [00:37:58]:
And I'm like but afterwards, I thanked her in my mind because it highlighted that I wasn't there yet. I wasn't I wasn't believing. But, anyway, that's that's that's a different story. What I did realize, though, just now was when things are my intuition often shows up in creative endeavors, and there is such a lightness where I don't even have to think. The creativity just it's just there. And I all my life, I've just accepted it. Like, okay. I'll do that.
Mahara Wayman [00:38:28]:
Oh, yeah. That's oh, got it. And I realized that's my intuition, and I it didn't there wasn't a visceral other than a lightness. So when I have when I have a a a somatic reaction that is heavy, still to this day, it's pretty much something I have to look at. It's not the density of knowing. It's the density of, I'm guessing, shame and guilt. Mhmm. But when there's a complete when there's a lightness and it's an instant understanding or an idea, then I'm like, yeah.
Mahara Wayman [00:39:00]:
That's it. Done. Yes. So cool. So, so cool.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:39:07]:
And I love the piece you're bringing in, which is there's no thought. Do you know what I mean? Like, often, we get in there, and we're starting to do all this thinking, and then we come up with a decision, which, like, yours is a gorgeous example, then our body cannot hold it when do you know what I mean? Like, when that person was like, are you kidding? And then the body just like, and goes back into that trauma response, you know, the the flight fight or freeze or fawn. And so here's that beautiful example of it's often when there is no thought. It's just the do. It's the yes. Yes. I am. You know what I mean? I am being drawn by this, and I am it.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:39:49]:
You know? It's like, I am that choice. I am that creativity, and it's not like, wait. Wait. Is Sharon that? Can Sharon do that? Like, no. You just, like, melt into it and go.
Mahara Wayman [00:40:01]:
It reminds me actually, I have 2 children, 2 girls. They're they're grown up now, but when they were little, and I think everyone can relate to this, you see children whether they're your own or not, and they are so free and light. There's a time when they're very little when they're like, yeah. No. I am. I am the queen of the world. I and they live it and they breathe it and they see it. Like, I am.
Mahara Wayman [00:40:26]:
They're so close to themselves, to their to their authenticity, And everything is just like, nope. They just reach out and grab life, and they step up into their growth and to their experience. And then, of course, you know, that kind of whittles away as they get older and older. At least I saw it in my kids, and I remember it in my own being. But such such good stuff. I would love for you to share with us, though, what are some things that you do consciously to help navigate yourself from that place of stuckness and density and generational trauma to a place of you know, to the other side where you're feeling lighter, whole, aligned, powerful. What are some things that you do to to cultivate that and or navigate it?
Sharon Ann Rose [00:41:15]:
Yeah. I think in my experience, you know, it's ever changing as I grow, evolve, and change and go through the various seasons and cycles of my life. And when you were asking that question, internally, I was going, and what is the consistence? Like, what can you touch that's always consistent? So my internal conversations with myself, you know, really acknowledging that I am the one where all the actions, thoughts, everything I have begins and ends with me. And so I'm going to have a really sound conversation when I'm feeling off center, off balance. You know, even yesterday, I had begun, this new job. And in the morning, I totally missed a ongoing, meeting that I have, and so she had left a message for me. And so when I saw it, oh my god. And I was just really off with everything.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:42:13]:
So first, I just put my hand on my heart and had the internal conversation with the one who actually had overlooked how I am stepping into something very new, very big, and I need a lot of space, and I didn't give it to myself. And so it's okay. Time for inner inner conversation. Here you go. And and often, you know, I don't overly gravitate towards going like, which part of me am I conversing with now? I just put hand to the heart, breathe, and do, you know, the deepest self compassion and kindness I can and make sure I literally dialogue. Literally dialogue. So it was exactly that. I was like, oh, sweetie.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:42:53]:
You really didn't realize how big of a change this is for you, and you didn't plan enough time. And, you know, let's talk with, for example, this woman who I have an ongoing meeting. Let's talk about changing the date. You know? So I did all those things to that. So inner conversation, everything from love, compassion, and such deep self acceptance. And then, you know, the second constant for me is getting my body on the earth. And doing that often, for me, it's imperative to have it be just me, me and life, me and earth. And so it's, I go even just out to my backyard most mornings and just stand there, you know, or just stand there barefoot and feel.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:43:39]:
It's the time in the day where I put aside all judgment and just feel how my body feels life. Because for me, when I'm on the earth by on my own, it's so palpable to me. And then the other one would be, creativity, you know, making sure I'm making time for writing. I'm a writer. So writing, journaling, writing a poem. You know, whenever I go into my perception that I'm stagnant because, you know, in reality, we can never be stagnant. It's our mind latching on to an idea that, oh god, you know, we screwed up. We're dysfunctional.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:44:15]:
Everything is frozen. Then I write, you know, a poem either to that part or from that part. And that then is so it reveals so much of, like, oh, this part loves me so much and is doing it, you know, all it can to grab my attention to, you know, help me get more mature and to claim, like you said, that beautiful, aspect that you acknowledged in in your daughters, that part in me that that grabs life, but also lets life grab me and where I go, yes. Take me. You know? Take me. I'm yours.
Mahara Wayman [00:44:52]:
So, so good. And I I just wanna highlight that compassionate self forgiveness is is one of the cornerstones is the cornerstone of my of my work, is teaching my clients how to how to be compassionately loving of themselves and and to give ourselves permission to just accept and forgive things that we have believed about ourselves. And no joke. Tough work. And the first time I heard it, I thought it was complete woo woo because I was like, you've mentioned it earlier. I'm a very happy person. I'm such a happy go lucky, fortunate, you know, great family, great friends, great husband, great kids. Like, what the hell? I'm totally you know, I'm I'm I got my shit together.
Mahara Wayman [00:45:39]:
And then I went through this exercise, and I was a sobbing mess. And I'm like, I don't even know where that came from.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:45:45]:
I don't even know where that came from.
Mahara Wayman [00:45:47]:
And, you know, so anyway, yes, compassionate self forgiveness. Love the visual of grounding to earth. And, you know, there is if this is new for for any of you listeners, we are all made up of energy, and the earth is our is our energetic source. Right? You just put your feet barefoot on the grass, a cat, and just allow yourself to feel and to be 1. And, again, I know I sound like a like, I'm out. It's a bit woo woo for some of my listeners maybe, but really try it. Right? Just try it. Yeah.
Mahara Wayman [00:46:19]:
So beautiful tips on realigning yourself and just reminding yourself how much you matter. So, Sharon, thank you for sharing that with us today. Thank you for sharing your whole story. We haven't yet touched on what it is that you do today. Can you tell us more about the services that you offer and what it is you love most about the work that you're doing today?
Sharon Ann Rose [00:46:46]:
I would be honored too. So I work with women and have been doing that for as long as I remember, probably since I was born. And, you know, the form that it has taken me is showing up in a woman's life. She calls me in when she's in big transition and and able to sense, like, I'm not being who I want to be. Like, the threshold moment of it it literally often is because of a divorce or a change, like becoming a mama, having a baby, losing a job, wanting to change your job, going through menopause. You know? And I'm moving much more because of my own, personal experience and path to serving women through menopause because it's the biggest threshold I have ever seen where we are given by life this opportunity to exactly what you said, let our life, like, not the life that we have known and had given to us and has societies projected on us and religion and education, etcetera, etcetera, and our parents and our partners and family systems, but it's this moment, you know, many moments for me. It's it's taken, like, 7 plus years of this moment of life saying, this is your life. Say yes to it.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:48:08]:
And then all the things that come with that, they are physical. They are energetic. They are psychic. And so the way that I hold women, you know, I I do really deep transformative processes, and it's helping a woman exactly what we've been speaking about today, really learn to cultivate her own inner relationship with herself, with her wholeness, with her authenticity, and be able to see and acknowledge and step into She is her own greatest healer, wise woman. You know, I mean, all the things. She is her medicine woman for, you know, this next stage of of her life and then working, you know, in the nuances. So, you know, I have many, skill sets in my medicine bag, but I use hypnosis, guided imagery, meditation. I'm a shaman and a priestess, also a spiritual peace minister.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:48:59]:
So we're using I'm tuning into what will serve that woman best, what her languaging is, what her story is, what her preference is, what her belief system is, and then cultivating, you know, various experiences for her to engage, you know, in a very deep way with herself and and go through transformation. And that's my absolute most favorite part, like, to, yeah, to, like, watch a woman come home to herself and really find, like, this. Like you said, this queen, this gem, these riches are are mine, are, you know, hers for the taking, and then how she is going to vary uniquely. Not one size fits all, not like the 10 step model, but her way of stepping forward into life, you know, with that very brave vulnerability of being so fiercely soft. You know? So fiercely soft with herself first and then with all of life. So it's just there's no longer a battle. There's no battle anymore.
Mahara Wayman [00:50:01]:
What a beautiful vision. And, Sharon, I just wanna thank you for doing the work that you do. It is so it's just so, so needed. And what I'm learning with with the work that I do, which is slightly I mean, it's along the same lines, but a little bit different. But what I'm learning, and I even learned this as as I was raising my children, is there is this beautiful domino effect to kindness and to love. And every you know, we touch one person's heart, our client. We help one client. But do you know who they help and who those people help and so on and so on and so on? I mean, that is how the world is gonna heal itself is one is one step at a time, one act of kindness at a time, one act of vulnerability or one act of courage.
Mahara Wayman [00:50:46]:
And I think it is incredibly courageous for women to recognize their power and to seek help to to harness it. And that's what you and I are here for, and there's a whole tribe of women, lots of realities, lots of different ages and ethnicities and and training, all of that stuff. But if you want to feel more connected with yourself, ask the tough questions of yourself you can handle. If you need help in navigating those questions, reach out. Reach out to a coach, a therapist. What just reach out or start a conversation with your neighbor. The most beautiful thing I think we can do as human beings is recognize that we are community, and it's it's a beautiful thing to take that step to connection, whatever that looks like for you. Sharon, I wanna thank you for being a guest on my show today.
Mahara Wayman [00:51:38]:
Literally, this has been an amazing conversation. Nice part 2 in our future. Folks, check the show notes because I will put in there everything that you need to know about Sharon, how you can connect with her. And if if she's got books that are still available for purchase, they will be listed in the show notes. My name is Maher. This has been the art of badassery special. Shout out and thank you to our guest today, Sharon and Rose. And I'll see you guys next week on the art of badassery.
Mahara Wayman [00:52:05]:
Till then, keep doing your thing, peeps.
Sharon Ann Rose [00:52:09]:
Thank you, Mahara.
Mahara Wayman [00:52:15]:
Thanks for tuning in to another badass episode. Your support means the world to me. So if you enjoyed what you heard today, don't forget to like, share, and rate the episode on your favorite podcast platform. Your feedback keeps the badassery flowing. And, hey, if you're ready to unleash your inner badass and conquer whatever life throws your way, why not book a complimentary badass breakthrough session? Just click the link in the show notes to schedule your session, and let's kick some serious butt together. Until next time, stay fearless, stay fabulous, and of course, stay bad ass. This is Mahara signing off.
