Mahara Wayman [00:00:05]:
Welcome to the art of badassery where I explore what it takes to live life on your own terms. Break free from the status quo and unleash your inner badass. Whether you're a rebel at heart or simply seeking inspiration to step outside your comfort zone, this podcast is for you. I'm your host, Mahara Wayman and each week I dive into the stories, insights and strategies of those who have mastered the art of badassery and are living life to the fullest. They smile when no one is looking. Welcome to the Art of Badassery podcast. My name is Mahara. I want you to meet Susanna Mukamai, a life and accountability coach for ambitious individuals who navigate life with their feet in different countries.
Mahara Wayman [00:00:53]:
She specializes in helping clients achieve their dream goals while maintaining their productivity, focus, healthy habits, great relationships, and time for what they love. Having lived in the 7 countries herself across 3 continents, Susana has now settled in Zambia with her husband and son. She loves writing, reading, admiring flowers, and experimenting with becoming her badass self. Welcome to the show. I look forward to chatting and learning more about you, Susanna.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:01:24]:
Hi, Mahara. I'm so excited to be here.
Mahara Wayman [00:01:27]:
Alright. I I gave you a heads up on this, but why do you wanna be on the show?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:01:31]:
Well and I told you heads up also, it's a tough question. And, you know, to be completely honest, I don't think of myself being a badass, but then when I think of the stuff I do and when I'm really intentional about thinking about it, it's like, that's pretty badass, what I have done, what I have managed in my life. And just the recent one, I spent my entire working life doing humanitarian aid, and then I decided to change when my son was 9 months. And now 3 years after that, I'm like, oh my goodness. I managed to create a coaching business from a moment when I had no idea, having a coaching business. So just, like, looking back, that makes me realize, like, yes, I am pretty badass, and that's why I wanted to be here because I wanted to share with the women who are listening that maybe you are bigger badass than you think you are.
Mahara Wayman [00:02:30]:
Okay. So so good. And I'm I'm so pleased that you shared that because that is really what the show is all about. It's allowing women to recognize their badassery. And to your point, often, we just go through life doing what needs to get done. And it's not until, for whatever reason, we look back and we register. Wow. That's actually pretty cool.
Mahara Wayman [00:02:50]:
I'm very curious about the humanitarian work that you've done. Would you mind sharing a bit of that with us?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:02:57]:
Yeah. So I spent 10 years doing it, and I studied environmental studies. So I it's something else than what I studied, but that's what life does to us. Right? It happens. And at that point, I met somebody, and I always loved traveling. And that somebody I met, he was in love with Africa. He was studying humanitarian aid. That was something he always wanted to do.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:03:23]:
And because I was in love and I was excited about traveling, I finished my bachelor degree, and I followed him to Uganda. And that's eventually how I got my first job doing this kind of work, and I discovered that first, I discovered after being 4 weeks in Africa that I didn't die. I didn't get any terrible disease. People were really nice. You know, all the stereotypes about Africa, and there were many of them, and I was so scared going first time. But then I just love it. I I love the Uganda. I love the the work I was doing because I was always adventurous, and I enjoyed meeting people and working with people.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:04:09]:
So I spent couple of years in Uganda, then I moved to Zambia. That's where I ended up. So I worked in a refugee settlement here. I lived in the middle of the refugee settlement for one and a half years, which was amazing experience. And, yeah, then I spent shorter time working with refugees in Tanzania, and then I made my dream happen, which I think is also pretty badass of living and working for 6 months in Mongolia.
Mahara Wayman [00:04:38]:
Wow. I can't even imagine. When you say working for in a refugee settlement, I have no idea what that means. It's so far away from my reality. Can you just give us paint us a picture about what that really looks like? Are these settlements ones where they will stay permanently, or is it this a stop gap for somewhere else? Like, what exactly does it mean to be in a refugee settlement?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:05:05]:
This is bit different because what we see usually on TV, we see the refugee camps, we see the tents with the UNHCR logos on it, in the war torn countries. I mean, neck neighboring war torn countries. And the refugee settlement in Zambia was a bit different because it was more eventually, it was meant short term, but it became long term. And because Zambia is very big and the people are not that many, so the way it looked in Zambia, it was no tense, but it's more like African village. So it was a remote area. There was dirt roads. No electricity at that point. I believe that now they should, be connected to the national grid, hopefully.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:05:52]:
So it was very remote, but it was not this crowded, tense, context as we see from TV. So it was like a regular, village, and most of the people who were there were from Angola, from Congo, and from Rwanda where, like, from Rwanda, it was during the genocide, from Angola during the civil war. And what happened and what makes it different is that actually, Zambia was very, forward in this, and they offered the refugees who officially cease to be refugees to become eventually Zambian citizen. So it was lots of then about integration and the people staying long term. So I worked with the former refugees who were 18, 20 years old, but they were actually born in Zambia. So they were almost Zambians except on the passport. So that that was a that's what what was it. And, I mean, I really loved working with refugees because it's it gives us the perspective, of what the people went through and what I always admired was, like, they walked 100 and 100 kilometers.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:07:01]:
They had to leave everything behind, and then they still found the power to smile and think about, like, what's next, and that was very inspiring.
Mahara Wayman [00:07:13]:
It definitely sounds inspiring. I'm curious, though. What did you learn about yourself as you were submerged in that in that experience?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:07:21]:
That's a good question, and I think nobody asked me this question. So as I'm talking, I will be thinking about it. One thing that came first was the importance of nature for me because, as I said, it was a remote area. It was in a bush. I was the only white person living there. So I felt at times, I made friends among the workers, among the refugees, but I was still I felt alone sometimes. So I spent lots of time walking in the bush. And that's something why I think I fell in love in, with Zambia because the nature is just amazing here, and it's something I really need in my life to be happy.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:08:04]:
I would say it's a value for me. I need to have nature in my life, and that kind of confirmed it. The second thing what's coming to my mind is really it it might sound a bit cliche, but I think that's what it is, is being grateful for what I have. How fortunate I am that I was born in a country where there was no war since I was born. Like, I'm, I think, part of that lucky generation that never experienced any big war. So that's a big thing, and we don't think about it because that's how our life is. But when you hear the stories of the people, what they have lost, what they have gone through, and these are just normal people as us and how tough it might be for them in a new country. So the gratefulness, I think that's a big thing and the resilience.
Mahara Wayman [00:09:02]:
All components of being a badass for sure. I can't imagine, to be honest. I'm from Jamaica. I've lived in Canada most of my life. I feel very fortunate. But to your point, recognizing your place in the world and being grateful for it, I think is part of being a badass because there's an acceptance of who you are and the circumstances that you found yourself in, but still being grateful for it regardless of the challenges that it may persist. Okay. So you have a background in humanitarian aid.
Mahara Wayman [00:09:33]:
And how long did you do that type of work?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:09:35]:
10. 8, 10. I still do part time job, with the NGO, but it's really phasing out. So around that. Yeah.
Mahara Wayman [00:09:45]:
How did you transfer into coaching? They're not side by side by any stretch. So where did the coaching component come in?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:09:52]:
Do you want the long story or the short one?
Mahara Wayman [00:09:54]:
I want the one that highlights some badassery.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:09:57]:
Okay. So I was the person who thought that business is not for me. That, I was always taught just have 9 to 5 job, make sure you have the salary at the end of the month. We are not rich family. It's not for us, so that kind of mindset. And I never thought even of creating my own business. And then, one day, I think it was December or January, my son was about 9 months old. I joined a free 1 week event.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:10:25]:
It was about business. It was first time I heard of work launch. I had no idea. And as I kept following it, something started resonating. And then the last day, I was like, okay. I'm going to, raise my hand virtually. And if this lady who was the the boss of the training, if she picks me and if she answered my question in a way that I am suitable for this course, I'm going
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:10:49]:
to do it. And it was a $3,000 course. I have never done something like this investing this large sum of money, and I thought I was crazy. I had no idea what kind of business I want to start. I didn't know. I just signed up. And and that's how I went into the business. Of course, it changed.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:11:12]:
Thanks to this course, I really started. I got my 1st paying client ever, but my first focus was it was more mentoring, and it was on intercultural relationships. And I discovered I really like it. I had to really overcome lots of limiting beliefs. I had to do lots of badass crazy things like talking on video because I was creating online course, and
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:11:34]:
I was saying myself, like,
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:11:35]:
you hate talking in public. You hate talking on video, and then you create online course. So I and I dealt with lots of haters because I was doing intercultural relationships. It was for Czech women. And because my husband is Zambian, naturally women with African men gravitated to me, but there was, like, lots of, from outside people, lots of racism comments, so I had to deal with all these haters and all this. It was tough. But I I never even thought of giving that idea up. So it started evolving, then eventually I learned about coaching.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:12:10]:
I really like it. And, 2 years after that, I start focusing on life and accountability coaching, which is what I'm doing now because I realize, yes, it's great if we have a great relationship, but then it's just part of life. If we really want to be happy, we need to focus on all the areas of our lives that are important. So that's how I end up doing, what I'm doing. And, naturally, I love the topic of habits, productivity, so that it was kind of perfect match.
Mahara Wayman [00:12:39]:
Thank you for that story. And, wow, so many opportunities to for badassery. And I I wanna go back to your recognition that you had voluntarily jumped into, shall we say, the cesspool of racism that exists in our world today. First off, I just wanna say, yay for you. That, you know, that takes guts on some level. But can you tell us a little bit more about how you navigated that? So the first thing that I'm thinking is or I'm wondering is, were you surprised at that level of racism, either within those around you or perhaps even within yourself? K. Let me back up. Not racism within yourself, but maybe some cultural biases that you weren't aware of.
Mahara Wayman [00:13:23]:
Does that make sense?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:13:26]:
It does. And I don't I think I was surprised because I remember thinking, like, it's so interesting how some people can be so hateful that they put so much energy into it because, what happened, the way the course I attended was built, like, there was a certain structure and it was built on Facebook. And I think most of us will agree that Facebook has the the most hateful people. I didn't find similar environment in Instagram or LinkedIn. So perhaps it was not the best platform for me, but it happened. And I was really, really surprised how far some people can go, how much energy they put into this hate because what kept happening, it was not just once or twice. Like, people would look up my name, and they would, like, find, when they would learn about me outside of Facebook, they would find me on Facebook. They would send me a DM, how terrible person I am because my husband is from Africa and all this.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:14:29]:
So I was surprised, and I started processing it. And, one thing that helped me was really realizing it has nothing to do with me. It's not about me. It's about the people, and it made me realize that it's important topic because why women who are in intercultural relationships and especially if you can see the difference, like, why they should go through this. Like, how is that important that your husband comes from India or from Zambia or, from wherever. Right? And why are our children should deal with it? So that kind of gave me a motivation to to go through it. And on the cultural biases, I think it's, it's really important topic, and, I think the context in Czech Republic is very different than Canada and US. And I I don't know really, like, how is it in Canada compared to the US.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:15:30]:
So that seems kind of like foreign word to me when I hear, like, this discussion. Right? Because in Czech Republic, Europe, I think it's very different. I think that was one of the first thing I started teaching my women is that it's not about one one culture or one solution being better. It's about the fact that they are just different, and it's not about being better or worse, good or bad. So that was that kind of starting point also for me to realize, like, I have of course, like, we all have cultural biases and especially when we were never thought about it and our attention was not brought to it, it was tough realizing, like, being white lady in Africa, like, it brings, like, the positive biases, but it's still a bias. Right?
Mahara Wayman [00:16:30]:
Right. Yeah. I think, you know, the term bias, cultural bias, especially is fairly new in my world. As I said, I'm Jamaican, but I was I spent most I came to Canada when I was 10. Jamaica is a melting pot. We have all different cultural backgrounds, but I'm wondering if your path that you've chosen has afforded you many opportunities to question and learn and grow. And to me, that's been badass. Right? You're a white woman in an interracial relationship helping other interracial relationships.
Mahara Wayman [00:17:05]:
So I can I I can only assume that there's many opportunities for you to go, wow? That's interesting. Wow. Where did that come from? Oh, okay. Wow. That's interesting. And truly, I think that's part of being badass is giving ourselves permission to have those types of conversations without judgment. Or if you have the judgment if you bring judgment to the conversation, hopefully, by the end of the conversation, that judgment has shifted slightly, whether it was judgment for yourself or for the other person. So lots of opportunity for growth within that.
Mahara Wayman [00:17:36]:
What happened next? You decided you're in this course. You're helping interracial relationships, and you have switched slightly now to life accountability. What's the big change there for you as far as what you are being asked to help? Is the problem that much different, or are you just looking at it from a slightly different lens?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:18:00]:
I would say it's different. Most of my people now, they come to me because they want to get stuff done. So it's really about productivity, building, habits, building, creating our better selves. Right? But what is interesting, and what kind of remained, and it's funny that I didn't know you were from Jamaica, that this theme of having feet in different countries. And even though most of my clients come to me because of productivity, 98% of them are like me. They have fit in different countries. So I mostly work and and it's not expats. Right? It's people like you and me who have who come from one country but have been living in other country for years.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:18:47]:
So many of my clients are, for example, people originally from India who have been living in the US for years or, people from Africa living in Europe for years. So it's I love that this this team kind of remained. And here and there, like, I end up still talking with my clients about relationships. So, it's it's fun to have this conversation, but it really shifted. And one of the reason why I shifted, I felt that it was the the women at that point when they came to me for help, it was already too late. Like, often, like, they would like, I can remember number of cases. They the best option at that point was to break up. So it was more like, there would be more need for therapy than coaching because it would be already beyond, the the boundary, let's say.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:19:46]:
So, yeah, that that's changed, but I'm so happy that I still live in this community of people with fit in different countries.
Mahara Wayman [00:19:57]:
It's such a beautiful visual. I'm very visual. So when you, you know, when you say that feed in different countries, at first when I read it and wrote it, the introduction, I didn't quite not that I didn't understand it, but I didn't have a visual. I didn't have a a reaction to it. But now that we're talking and I shared that, you know, I I was born in Jamaica, lived there for 10 years. I also lived in England for a bit. But I really appreciate that visual because I'm in my late fifties, and my dream now is to go home. I really wanna go home.
Mahara Wayman [00:20:28]:
Just wanna go home. Wow. Where did that emotion come from? I think with the amount of people like me that left their country for political reasons, there's a whole other level of need that we have perhaps dampened or ignored as we created a new life in a new country. I'm very lucky. I'm very privileged. I have a beautiful home, beautiful family, but there's a part of me that longs to reconnect with that little girl in the island. Holy hell. And so this idea of having feed in different countries, while on paper, it's just words.
Mahara Wayman [00:21:20]:
Really, what's happening right now in my world, I feel deeply connected to the need of embracing myself in that heritage and just just being that person who really has never been been up until now because I've been the Canadian or I've been the Jamaican on holiday at home, but I'm still the Canadian that's with her family. I I think there's this desire to find the authenticity of having feed in both countries and being able to describe what that feels like and what that actually looks like and how it plays out in our lives. So went off on a bit of a tangent, everyone. Thank you for still being with us on the podcast, but that was a very interesting, experience because just a few words and hearing Susanna describe this really, really just got to me in that moment. So I guess the question now is, what are you learning about yourself today as a coach and a and a life and accountability coach that you know you only have that learning, that growth because of your all the things that you've gone through?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:22:38]:
I I love this analogy. It's not mine. I am not taking credit for it, but I love it. And that's and maybe you you heard it already, but I think it's so beautiful imagining our life being a perfectly written novel. And if it has 400 pages or 500 pages, we are not at the end at the happy end right now, and we might be on the page 148, which looks terrible, and it looks messy, and it looks not like we, what we thought it would be. But just having this bigger picture and knowing this is a perfectly written novel, All these things that are happening now are part of the story, and it is taking us to that happy ending. So that's that's something I came to believe that's how the life is. And, yeah, we don't know if it's true.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:23:37]:
We have no way to scientifically prove it, but just having this belief, I think it show makes us show up in better way. It makes us feel better. So then I'm like, I am taking it even if I can't prove it because it's so much helpful knowing that whatever is happening to me, it might be leading me to where I am supposed to go.
Mahara Wayman [00:23:59]:
I'm hearing trust trust and belief, trust in the process, trusting in life, and trust in yourself is what I'm really hearing coming up small. Yeah.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:24:11]:
And I wanted to say that I think it's really hard to trust and believe trust in the process. Right? Because we are on that page 148, and we don't know, like, what's next, and that's what I learned in the 3 years. It was I'm not one of the coaches who started business and was immediately making money. Not at all. I was just sharing this on LinkedIn being very honest and real. Like, it took me, I think, two and a half years to finally start making some money that I could live on. Like, the first two years, it was a few clients here and there, and it really yeah. I think two and a half years when I hit my, financial goal, which is not the famous 10 k or 5 k, but it's enough for what I, what I need to have some savings and so on.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:25:07]:
But it's it's hard to this journey. And as I started our conversation, I was like, it's pretty awesome. I managed to create this from nothing. And what I wanted to say is that we are in that book even though, like, we don't know where exactly or where we are going, but we really have this power to create stuff, and we can create something from nothing. And even though it's hard to have the trust in process sometimes, in my life, I feel like it what happened already, it always proved this point.
Mahara Wayman [00:25:50]:
I think it's a real challenge, especially when we're having a tough time. It can be very challenging to see beyond that. And I know that I've struggled with okay. I'm very clear on what I want. I'm a good person. I do good I do nice things. I have a good heart. Why aren't things working out the way I want? And it's been a it's been a a bit of a a bit of a tough go to recognize that maybe there's something better and to have that level of trust that it is all gonna work out.
Mahara Wayman [00:26:22]:
But I think part of being a badass is allowing ourselves to feel our feelings, but then choosing to choosing to just let them be and keep moving forward. Because I think I know for me, a lot of a lot of my challenges were I didn't wanna deal with my fears. You mentioned limiting beliefs earlier on, and I I do wanna I do wanna ask you about that because it wasn't until I started training to be a coach, and I've coached informally for years in one of my corporate roles. But when I got my certification as a certified mastery method coach, throughout that training, that's when my limiting beliefs really came up. And I was surprised. I hadn't realized because I'd buried them for 55 years. To me, that's being badass is recognizing, having the courage to question so that these beliefs come up and then being curious about it. And, you know, we don't wanna we all have challenging lives.
Mahara Wayman [00:27:22]:
We all have situations that flatten us, for example, but we don't have to live there. And I think that's a real sign of badassery is our recognition that, okay. This is happening or this happened, but I don't have to let that define me. I can make a choice that's gonna take me further away from the pain and closer to my goals. So going back to your limiting beliefs, or what were some of the limiting beliefs that you discovered along your journey, if you wouldn't mind sharing with us?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:27:51]:
I mean, if I would share all of them, we would be here for another 3 hours because there are so many and probably you experience it as well. Like, once you feel like you manage 1, another 5 come up. Okay. So there were so many. In the beginning, it was I'm not the type of person for business. What who am I to be sharing what I know about the relationship, when I was divorced and my my intercultural relationship before was a failure, like, all this judgment. Another one from the different side, that happened in January last year, I remember this exactly, was my limiting belief that my English is not good enough. And I remember the exact moment I got in touch with my now friend, coach.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:28:43]:
She's, American, and we were to coach each other. And I was supposed to go first to coach her, and I was like, oh my goodness. I am so scared. How can I coach native speaker? And then we basically ended up having a coaching conversation when she coached me, and we dig deeper what was happening for me. And I realized coming from Czech Republic, which I was still born when it was Czechoslovakia a few years before the commune communism ended. My parents spent most of their life during the communist regime, and then they're, like, the west was the good and east was the bad. So deep inside of me, I had this limiting belief that Americans, like, British people are better than me, and it was so difficult for me to to coach them in English because I was like, I have this Eastern European accent. I don't pronounce w s v or or I pronounce w s v up to this date.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:29:53]:
And it was tough, but then I just start coaching. I just start doing it, and now I don't think about it anymore. I even make fun of it sometimes because, like, I didn't have the patience to start, changing my pronunciation of w. So, I think that action was really helpful in overcoming that because rationally, you know, it it doesn't have any basis.
Mahara Wayman [00:30:21]:
Yeah. Great example. And that's the thing about limiting beliefs. You know, when we can look at them intellectually, we're like, well, that's ridiculous. Of course, that's not true. But what what we tend to forget or perhaps we don't realize in the moment is that these beliefs typically are they've been with us so long. It's just a part it becomes it just becomes a part of our of our being, and it takes work to dismantle these beliefs. And it takes courage, dare I say badassery, to to look at them and really question.
Mahara Wayman [00:30:57]:
Great example of a limiting belief. And I, for 1, I'm so glad that you kicked that limiting belief to the curb because your English is beautiful.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:31:05]:
It it takes me back actually to the refugee settlement, right, because the Angolans, they would speak Portuguese or Luale. The Congolese would speak French, or the the the smaller languages. And these would speak, like, in Yirwanda, and I didn't speak any of those languages. And their English was not that great, but still, you know, we managed to communicate. We we managed to be there, and, yeah, it was just being there and I was doing educational programs. So we were sending young Angolans and Zambians for vocational training. And the first group of kids, I have gone through everything with them from selecting them up up to the moment when they graduated, when they went for attachment or started businesses. And it felt very emotional, and it's not like I could have a conversation like this with them because of the language, but it's still it was powerful.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:32:09]:
It taught us stuff, me definitely, hopefully, them something as well. But, yeah, I'm going on another language tangent, so let me rest it here.
Mahara Wayman [00:32:20]:
No. What a beautiful example of of what we're talking about. It isn't it interesting? The limiting belief you shared was that your lang your English wasn't good enough, and yet you chose to be in a environment where multiple languages abound that you didn't speak. And all these years later, you're like, wow. The language I do speak isn't good enough. You can't speak English. It's just I just just an interesting, dare I say, coincidence that maybe you had, on some level, created an experience where it was almost like really showing you the reality of language and and where it fits in the chain of communication. It's just one part.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:33:11]:
Yeah. It's it's really interesting because with my English, another, like, limiting belief I had vivid because and that's very typical example, and I think, unfortunately, lots of us experience, similar things when we were at school. We had a substitute teacher substitute teacher. She was normally teaching Czech, but she had couple of classes, of English with us. And I remember she told me, like, Susanna, you will never ever speak English. And, I mean, not that it's a good example of teaching. Right? But that's what it was. And, as we were talking about things we we have all done and I have done and not thinking these are the moments of, but they are.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:33:59]:
Like, when I was 21, just, like, yeah, finished, the high school, like, 2 or 3 years ago and having this in my head, like, I will never speak English. I decided to go on a trip by a truck, to Sweden, and then I was dropped off at this petrol station alone, and I had to start speaking this terrible English I was learning at school, and I survived. And it was the first time I met people from Africa, and I did lots of now I would think crazy thing, and I would never want my daughter to do it if I had a daughter, but it it's pretty awesome, right, that I even though I had those belief, I somehow ignored them. I don't know. Like, I don't think it was intentional at that point, but when I think about it, like, that was pretty amazing, ignoring it and still doing this stuff.
Mahara Wayman [00:34:50]:
Such a great story. I love these offshoot badass stories. You jumped on a yeah. Away you go. Petrol station and and started talking that terrible English, and look at where you are now all these years later. So, so good. What would you say as we as we wrap this this conversation up, what are some tips that you have for the audience on how to really access your innate badassery on a daily basis? What do you do?
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:35:19]:
I think the most important thing is to realize that the things we are telling ourselves, we can call it the limiting beliefs, or the inner critic we have, they it's not us. And I remember when I realized I am different from my inner critic, it was big moment because I have lived in it my entire life. But the moment we realized it's not us, I think that in one way makes us more powerful because we realized I can hear it, but I don't have to listen to it. And I really believe in action. Right? So once we catch these moments, like, oh, you're not good enough to start a business or you're not good enough to be a coach. Once we catch it, I think it's really about action, and it doesn't have to be that you do something big. It can be a small step. I don't know.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:36:15]:
Signing up for a course or putting a Facebook post like I am taking my first client on, really doing something in the direction of your dream, taking that step however small it is. Because if you really want it, you have power to figure it out, I believe. And I tell that myself all the time, especially on the moments when I feel like, will I ever make it?
Mahara Wayman [00:36:44]:
So so good. You know, I talk about this a lot, and and it's exactly what you're saying, which is awareness, acceptance, aligned action. Right? 1st, you gotta become aware of what you want, what you don't want, and that's where limiting beliefs come in. Often, they they highlight, you know, they highlight what it is that you don't want more of. Accept it, throw it some love, and then take a line to action. And to your point, I love that you highlighted. It doesn't have to be something monumental. I truly believe that it's the small things that we do on a regular basis that shape our story.
Mahara Wayman [00:37:17]:
Because every action that we take towards our happiness, whether it's this massive business goal or just getting through the day, but every step we take sends a signal to the universe, which says I'm ready. I know who I am, and I know where I wanna go. Help me. Thank you for that, and thank you for this conversation. This did not go the way that I was planning or expecting, but very honest discourse on the challenge of sometimes living with your feet in 2 different countries or multiple countries. And I wanna thank you for sharing your story with us and with the audience. I look forward to hearing getting some feedback from listeners on what they loved about the show. Guys, check the show notes because, of course, all of the things that Susanna has to offer you will be there.
Mahara Wayman [00:38:05]:
Links to connect with her and learn more about her. And, of course, we'd love to have some feedback on on our conversation today. Susanna, thank you. Have an amazing day. And everyone, we'll see you next week on the art of badassery when I interview yet another badass lady. My name is Mahara. Have an amazing day.
Zuzana Mukumayi [00:38:23]:
Thank you, Mahara. It was my pleasure. I love the conversation.
Mahara Wayman [00:38:28]:
Me too. Thanks for tuning in to another badass episode. Your support means the world to me. So if you enjoyed what you heard today, don't forget to like, share, and rate the episode on your favorite podcast platform. Your feedback keeps the badassery flowing. And, hey, if you're ready to unleash your inner badass and conquer whatever life throws your way, why not book a complimentary badass breakthrough session? Just click the link in the show notes to schedule your session, and let's kick some serious butt together. Until next time, stay fearless, stay fabulous, and of course, stay badass. This is Mahara signing off.
