Mahara Wayman [00:00:05]:
Welcome to the art of badassery where I explore what it takes to live life on your own terms, break free from the status quo and unleash your inner badass. Whether you're a rebel at heart or simply seeking inspiration to step outside your comfort zone, this podcast is for you. I'm your host, Mahara Wayman. And each week, I dive into the stories, insights, and strategies of those who've mastered the art of badassery and are living life to the fullest. They smile when no one is lucky. Welcome to the art of badassery, the podcast that celebrates individuals who embody strength, resilience, and unapologetic authenticity. I'm your host, Mahara Wayman. And today, our guest personifies the very essence of badassery.
Mahara Wayman [00:00:56]:
Her name is Rebecca Nassar, and she's a trailblazer, an entrepreneur, and an advocate for living life on your own terms. Let's jump right in. Rebecca, welcome to the show.
Rebecca Nassor [00:01:07]:
Thank you so much, Myra, for having me.
Mahara Wayman [00:01:10]:
My pleasure. I'm the lucky one because I get to meet amazing women that are all over the world. Let's go back a little bit in time. What is it that you studied when you were in school?
Rebecca Nassor [00:01:21]:
I studied, way in my bachelor's, I did tourism and I need a master's business and economics. And I think back in school for quite a while, I was still, like, on this on this traditional corporate career path of maybe having a tourism career or something of that sort, getting into TUI or one of the big, travel how do you say it? Travel organizations. And was still very much on this traditional career.
Mahara Wayman [00:01:47]:
And when did you start to question this idea of doing the traditional route?
Rebecca Nassor [00:01:53]:
I think between my bachelor's and my master's, that was the first time when I went to Sanseebar. And just like the first time really got out of Switzerland, got out of my traditional routine life, and just dived into a new culture and also traveled solo for quite a while in in Africa. And that was probably where really a lot of opened up for me.
Mahara Wayman [00:02:14]:
I'm sure it did. Can you share with us an experience that you think helped to open you up to something different?
Rebecca Nassor [00:02:20]:
It's not a specific experience, but I just remember that this time in Zanzibar, I really learned to just be more me and just be more, like, all all my studies, all my grades, whatever. It didn't it didn't really matter. It was more about being with people, being, like, outside, having sitting at the beach together, enjoying time. And that just let me relax a lot. I was before really focused on performing all the time.
Mahara Wayman [00:02:47]:
That's a hard thing for a lot of us to do because we've grown up in a society that says you have to do certain things to be a certain way. So how difficult was it for you to relax and learn more about yourself and just and just hang with people and hang with yourself?
Rebecca Nassor [00:03:02]:
I guess it's still a process up until now. I mean, to be honest, there's always you go steps and steps. In this moment back then in in Zanzibar, it was not too difficult. It was just like a nice realization of just, like, being able to be. It was just automatically because people really didn't care about, like, what you do in school. I didn't I don't think I realized it then, but when I came back home, that was when it really sank in for me that that I'm much more open suddenly, that I'm much more outgoing, much more able to approach people.
Mahara Wayman [00:03:31]:
So how does that how does that girl compare to the one before she went? Like, what's the big difference from who you were to who you became or who you who you started to become?
Rebecca Nassor [00:03:41]:
I think it was super shy before. And then I remember when we went back at the airport, when my parents picked me up and suddenly, like, I think we were looking for for the right where where they parked the car or something like that. And I was just randomly going to to a police officer walking around and asking the for direction, and kinda taking the lead and just asking, which before, I I don't think I would have done that. And by now, it's just, you know, it's like a normal normal thing to do to just approach and ask people for help. And
Mahara Wayman [00:04:11]:
it seems like such a simple thing as such a simple act. But to your point, if you were shy and introverted before that, that's a that's a big step. Did your parents notice the change when you got back from Zanzibar that first trip?
Rebecca Nassor [00:04:24]:
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.
Mahara Wayman [00:04:27]:
So you went to Zanzibar for a holiday. How long were you gone for?
Rebecca Nassor [00:04:33]:
It wasn't really like, it was kind of this, like, vocation internship for half a year.
Mahara Wayman [00:04:39]:
Okay. So you're gone for 6 months?
Rebecca Nassor [00:04:41]:
Was in Tanzania for 6 months, and then I went on to South Africa, and Amelia, Botswana, and then did like a whole, like, solo travel trip for another 3 months. So I was gone for about 9 months at that time. Yeah.
Mahara Wayman [00:04:51]:
So what was the biggest thing you learned about yourself?
Rebecca Nassor [00:04:54]:
That it's okay to be me, I would say. That it's, that I will find friends all over the place. I think the biggest worry when I when I left was really, like, how is what what's gonna happen? Am I gonna find people? Am I gonna feed alone? And that just didn't happen at all. Like, it like yeah. It's just I think everyone who whoever went on a solo trip, you realize, like, how how much easier it, it gets to meet people. Because it's just when you're alone automatically, other people also much more approach you. You approach others more. So usually, this this worry of will I ever be alone is usually doesn't happen.
Rebecca Nassor [00:05:28]:
Like, yeah, you will find people easily all over.
Mahara Wayman [00:05:31]:
So on on this 9 month travel, was there any time in that in that 9 months where you thought, okay, what's next? Or were you really living in the moment?
Rebecca Nassor [00:05:40]:
I knew already that I, that I'm going to do the master. So that was kind of clear. I knew I'm going to come back and do a master still. But I really was hooked on to Africa. So I I knew I I kinda want to go back.
Mahara Wayman [00:05:53]:
Why? What is it about Africa?
Rebecca Nassor [00:05:55]:
The warmth of the people, the sun, the nature, but I think mainly the the warmth warmth of the people and just the the outgoing attitude here.
Mahara Wayman [00:06:04]:
Okay. So you loved your time there. You knew you're gonna get your masters. You went back after your masters, you went back and took a pretty big role in Zanzibar. Correct?
Rebecca Nassor [00:06:16]:
Yep. Exactly. During my master's, I was I was really set on this goal of finishing as quickly as possible and being able to go back. And then when the time came closer to actually finish the studies, I started to look out for jobs. And I started to look a bit everywhere, like Southern Africa, Eastern Africa. But just for a random coincidence, I I don't really believe in coincidences. But
Mahara Wayman [00:06:43]:
why? I think most of our audience doesn't either.
Rebecca Nassor [00:06:46]:
One day I saw, like, on Facebook, like, a hotel popped up that I had stayed in, and they looked for actually, an and and they were looking for an assistant manager, actually. And I didn't fit to the role at all. Like, they wanted 2 years of experience. They wanted a different start date that that I could offer. But I had lost the hotel. Like, I had stayed in it, 1 or 2 nights. And I was like, well, let let me just give it a go. Let me just try and send an application.
Rebecca Nassor [00:07:19]:
And then the funny thing was that it was a Swiss owned hotel, which I didn't know them before. But then I could have, the interview with the owner in Switzerland. And, he started to talk about, yeah, they actually only have ever one expert in the hotel, and that is the manager, not the assistant manager. And, that he would want to be literal to me. And then the start date would also, like, fit, in the end. And yeah. So that's that's kind of then how how I got to be the hotel manager there, in this hotel in Zanzibar.
Mahara Wayman [00:08:00]:
And can I just get clarity on how old you were? Because I have a feeling you weren't that old.
Rebecca Nassor [00:08:05]:
I was 25 at that point.
Mahara Wayman [00:08:08]:
Okay. I'm just gonna jump in here and highlight what how badass it is to swallow your dreams even like and and a lot of my clients are still working and, you know, we have this fear of applying for things that we don't think we qualify for. But I think it's awesome that even though the specifics didn't necessarily on paper match your qualifications or your timeline, you went for it anyway. That's badass people. So just, you know yes. But in the badass column, we've got a big check mark there. So you took this role on at the tender age of 25, and was it what you were expecting?
Rebecca Nassor [00:08:46]:
No. I don't think so. I I don't I'm I'm not honestly, not sure what I expected, but it was just like, this sounds exciting. Let's do it. It was I mean, it was a roller coaster in many ways. But I think when I came there, I was still a little bit in in sort of, like, a bit in this pride state of I got this position now, and I'm a manager now and whatever. And quite quickly, I learned, like, it it humbled me, basically, because there was so much to learn in such a short time. We we had a a 3 3 weeks handover period, and then it's kinda had to work out.
Rebecca Nassor [00:09:28]:
Yeah. It was it was fun, but it was also a lot to deal with.
Mahara Wayman [00:09:32]:
Well, I I can I can imagine? And I think it's interesting because our egos, they serve a purpose. Right? And it's great. Your ego got you in the door. Yeah. But it can be a wake up call. And even for badass, even for those of us that are displaying great acts of bravery and courage and badassery, sometimes our ego still gets in, still causes us a bit of drama. So you said it was humbling. What did you learn about yourself in that period though?
Rebecca Nassor [00:10:03]:
To stick through difficulties, certainly, and also to to really become a team leader. Because I wasn't, like I I was used to lead myself, but I wasn't really used to lead people.
Mahara Wayman [00:10:16]:
So what is the secret to being a, to leading people?
Rebecca Nassor [00:10:19]:
I think a big part for me is to to make space for them and to really give them the room, not like put yourself on this pedestal, but really kind of being being really part of the team. But at the same time, also having the authority to say, look. This is where we go, and this is where we don't go. So it's kind of this balance, that I think is important to find. What was
Mahara Wayman [00:10:44]:
the average age of your staff?
Rebecca Nassor [00:10:46]:
To be honest, most were older.
Mahara Wayman [00:10:48]:
Alright. So you you learned fairly quickly that you had to sort of navigate leadership a little bit differently. There was a lot of pride and ego going into the into the job. How long were you in that position?
Rebecca Nassor [00:10:59]:
For 2 years.
Mahara Wayman [00:11:00]:
What did you love most about it?
Rebecca Nassor [00:11:01]:
This feeling of standing in the cafe, especially when it was super busy, like it was a mix of hotel cafe, And just seeing how all the little pieces are working out and how how guests are happy, how staff are happy, how how it just yeah. How does this kind of machine works out together.
Mahara Wayman [00:11:17]:
So do you see have you ever seen that again in your life where you where you're able to step back and see how everything is working together?
Rebecca Nassor [00:11:24]:
I think in some ways more like more in terms of how the, how the world works or how, how life or the universe works that maybe not so much in, in, in this like tangible sense, but in a sense, yeah, of how life works.
Mahara Wayman [00:11:36]:
Let's go there because I talk about that a lot on the show, this idea that we are spiritual beings having a human existence. And even though we may not see it at the time, everything is working out for us. So I'm happy to go there. Was this your first foray into that concept of spirituality, universe, manifestation, so to speak, or have you, were you raised in that manner?
Rebecca Nassor [00:12:01]:
No. No. I was definitely not, raised in that. That's kind of that came into my life, at the start of entrepreneurship when I really started my own business as well. That was just the time when I also dived into coaching and dived more into who I am and and what makes me me and what can I bring to people also? So that was kind of my start. It was it was automatically combination for me entrepreneurship and spirituality working together.
Mahara Wayman [00:12:24]:
What was a big for you? Because I'm also obviously an entrepreneur and I'm a coach and I had on my journey some really big 's. I'm still having them. And I think entrepreneurship highlights the opportunity to be even greater learning. I'm curious what you learned and what along the way and what made you go, oh, okay.
Rebecca Nassor [00:12:45]:
I think the biggest pieces were also there around trusting, like, letting go more and not having to control everything, but just trusting that things work out somehow. And especially the 1st year for me was big learning about about money, specifically, like trusting money, relaxing around money, and just also being okay have to have nothing for a moment and and, like, taking your way out of that.
Mahara Wayman [00:13:07]:
K. We we're gonna do a deep dive on that because I know everybody listening has a money story. Some of us work really hard to understand our money story and change the narrative. And I'll be completely honest. I'm still working on it. Tell us a little bit about how you how you handle that because just hearing you say it, you know, I have to be okay with with having nothing or having less and just trusting. I wanna know how you do that.
Rebecca Nassor [00:13:32]:
A lot of it was facing that pain that comes with it than just feeling it and letting it be okay and letting it be there and letting like, screaming, shouting, whatever was necessary and uncovering the pieces that that were that let me stay stuck there, which, like, one was certainly being way too unrelaxed about things. It was just so much, especially in the beginning of entrepreneurship, I I was so much, like, changing things up all the time, coming up with one offer, then I didn't get feedback in, like, a month or 2. Then thinking again, what what can I change? What's happening? Why is it not working? Instead of just having this this base trust of, okay, this is what I'm doing. This is where we're going. I'm just gonna go. No. Like, I'm just gonna keep in keep on this path. Only when I started to really find that stability within me, that's when it also started to work out financially.
Mahara Wayman [00:14:22]:
You slowed down and you gave gave your business a chance is what I'm hearing.
Rebecca Nassor [00:14:28]:
Basically, it was, at some point, I decided to just take one month off social media, just go completely, like, back to, like, enjoying just a month to see what would I what is fun for me. What do I enjoy? Just find find back to this fun piece in me, and relax. And that's when slowly, slowly,
Mahara Wayman [00:14:49]:
the whole drawing, it came up again, really. You've left the hotel, then you started your own business.
Rebecca Nassor [00:14:56]:
There was a year in between. I went back to Switzerland and had a just administration shop somewhere. And then, I started my business.
Mahara Wayman [00:15:05]:
Okay. Talk to us about your business.
Rebecca Nassor [00:15:07]:
I mean, just the tagline is basically that I help people who want to travel more to start their own online business. That means usually, first of all, create the idea and the offer. Like, for the what what's your strengths, really? What makes you you? What's what can you bring to people? What doesn't match that with the market? Like, what are other people interested in? How can you make that also understandable for others and clear? And then go on with building a community, building I I do web design as well, so I build their websites, until getting first clients. That's basically, like, the offer as such, and a lot of it is really about this this spirit of just go out and do it. Because there's just so many people who who have this dream, who want to start something, but just don't really know how to and and then are stuck for years in thinking, should they should they not? Can it fail or not? And that's really something that I love to bring to people, this this energy of let's go for it. Let's try.
Mahara Wayman [00:16:08]:
Nice. So who are your typical clients? Is there a specific age group that tends to work with you, or are your is your client base all over the board?
Rebecca Nassor [00:16:18]:
It's a little bit all over the board when I when I meet people randomly. But, if people really come from from Instagram or from my website, it's usually, women between the age of 25 to 35 who just really also love to travel, who want to get to see more of the world and who don't who are not really okay to just have 5 weeks a year to that.
Mahara Wayman [00:16:37]:
What is it about traveling that fills your cup so much? Because, you know, there's a lot of a lot of people do the work that we do, but it's not connected to travel. And what I, you know, you right off the bat, you said, I help people who wanna travel create an online. So what is it about traveling the world that that is so important to you?
Rebecca Nassor [00:16:56]:
I love to meet other cultures. I think that's that's really the biggest piece, meeting other people, meeting other cultures, and and just interacting and seeing seeing what you can learn from each other and discovering new ways of living. That's one piece. And the other piece is kind of this adventure of seeing something new, of experiencing new things, of throwing yourself out into the unknown and, just seeing where it takes
Mahara Wayman [00:17:21]:
you. Another bad ass trait is having the courage to go out into the unknown because, you know, that's not for everyone. But I think it's pretty cool that you found it at such a young age and now you're helping other people to do the same. Thinking purely as an entrepreneur from 1 entrepreneur to the other, what's been the biggest challenge for you?
Rebecca Nassor [00:17:38]:
I would say it's, again, this kind of ego piece of not making it so much about me, but learning to really making it about others and learning to become softer in that sense.
Mahara Wayman [00:17:47]:
Can you give us an example? I know what you mean. But I want to make sure our listeners know what you mean.
Rebecca Nassor [00:17:52]:
I remember that in the beginning, I was still very much focused on on like, how can I earn money? How can I get clients? How can I get this and that? And there was no real space for others. Like, what do others like, for for marketing to work out of for business to work out. I think it's kinda crucial that you manage to bridge to the other person and and understand what this other person needs right now and whether it even makes sense to for this person to become a client or not, for example, or, like, just really tune into the needs of other people and making space for them.
Mahara Wayman [00:18:24]:
Was that hard to do?
Rebecca Nassor [00:18:25]:
For me, yes. Not because I didn't want to, but but because I just didn't have, like, I just didn't have the space. I just
Mahara Wayman [00:18:30]:
Well, thanks for sharing. And you know what? You're not alone. Like, I I get it. I hear exactly. But what did it take for you to bridge that gap? Because there's there is a gap from where you when you start this business and you have the need, you think I need I gotta get a client. I gotta get 5 clients a month, or I I need to do this, this, and this to the place where you are now, which is one of total surrender, and you're putting the clients first. But what happened in between that gap?
Rebecca Nassor [00:18:56]:
I think a big part was exactly this this money struggle and having to learn to, like, let things not work out to be humbled. That that is basically that's why, in hindsight, I'm I'm I'm really glad about it because it it changed me in a very in a very good way. It made me much more humble. And it was needed for me to to learn that, to have that, like, like, basically, life being, like, no. This is not working out at the moment. Like, get free your own pain and learn to focus on others as well, or make space for others.
Mahara Wayman [00:19:25]:
It's such an important lesson, whether you're an entrepreneur or not, is recognizing that first of all, it's okay to make a mistake. It's okay to be down. It's okay to feel all of that. You mentioned it earlier when you can give yourself permission to feel the feelings and just have it stop there. Oh, isn't that interesting? I feel like shit today. Isn't that interesting? I'm really I'm really scared of this or whatever the whatever it is is to just feel it. But then there's still another I'm curious what the action was. We talk a lot about it's great to have an idea, but then you have to take action on it.
Mahara Wayman [00:19:58]:
Once you sat with the feeling and you recognize that there was a money story and there was maybe fear, what was, what were some of the action steps that you took? Was it strictly action in your mind of meditating and being grateful and journaling, for example, or was there something concrete that you did in your business to solidify the new belief, the new understanding?
Rebecca Nassor [00:20:19]:
I think a big piece was really reflecting over it again and again, also learning to feel my feelings, like taking the time every day again and again and again to to feel it, to let it be there, and to to express things more also or emotions.
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Rebecca Nassor [00:21:41]:
But there was some specific things like I, I had a side job then because I needed to get in money somehow. And then out of that, I could, fund myself, a retreat, which was a lot about heart opening, and connecting with others. And that was certainly, a big thing too for me.
Mahara Wayman [00:21:59]:
Were you running the retreat, or did you attend the retreat?
Rebecca Nassor [00:22:02]:
No. No. I attended it. Really collecting all these messages that I I I always believe we we get the messages or the right tools at the right times, but actually following them and, checking in every day again, what is needed right now.
Mahara Wayman [00:22:15]:
Such great advice. So I guess add this to the list of being badass. Number 1, it's totally badass to feel your feelings, even if they're uncomfortable. It's also badass to act on them. Like, what is this feeling telling me? And what's my best next action? When I first started doing that, I was very surprised at how small the actions were. And sometimes I'm still surprised by that because I want big results. And I still often think to have a big result, there needs to be a big action. And she's laughing.
Mahara Wayman [00:22:45]:
If you guys aren't watching this on video, she's just cracking up at me now because, you know, I'm being vulnerable. But it's true. It's very easy to think, oh, I'm gonna have to I've got to conquer social media. I've got to be the best blogger. I've got to be I've got to have a number one book. I've got to, you know, climb the mountain and be the only person to do that in order to have it make a difference in the world. And what I think is so powerful about your message, and many of us in this in this business is it actually takes a lot it can take very small actions. Mhmm.
Mahara Wayman [00:23:16]:
You know, I've taught my children to smile at strangers because that is, I think, a really powerful way to to have them feel better, have have the stranger feel better, make a connection. We're all 1. Of course, when they were little, they were like, my mom is so strange, but it doesn't have to be big actions. Little actions can get us where we want to go. And often they get us there faster. Can you share with us some of the stories of being an entrepreneur that maybe the outcome was a surprise to you, whether it's your story or maybe one of your clients?
Rebecca Nassor [00:23:47]:
I think a client just recently, she she's not really my my usual target group. Like, just the way we found each other was already pretty interesting. She attracted within 3 months, basically, like, a big IT process corporate project in that sense, pretty much out of out of the blue. So that was one of these things where it just was like, she she was so much in trust also herself with what she's able to offer and just got this chance out of to have this, this huge project.
Mahara Wayman [00:24:19]:
So when you say she was so much in trust, how do you help your clients to get to that place of being so much in trust? Because, again, it's a it's a phrase that I'm familiar with as a coach, but I want I wanna get some clarity for our listeners on how you would do that or how they would do that.
Rebecca Nassor [00:24:38]:
It depends a bit on what the piece beneath is, I would say. Like, usually, if you're not interested, you're afraid of something. So then the question is, first of all, what exactly are you afraid of? What's the fear behind? Really look into that. Also analyze it. Like, what what's going on? Why are you afraid? If this worst case happens that you're so afraid of, what are you gonna do? What's what's gonna be the way forward? Because you're probably, like usually, it feels like we would die, but we don't in 99% of the cases. So it's really about understanding that fear and then starting to collect new experiences. Let's say you're really afraid that you will never have clients in your business. Start to talk to people and get maybe test clients first, get experience for that, get positive feedback, go a next step, offer something smaller for for a smaller price, and just build this level of trust in that way.
Rebecca Nassor [00:25:30]:
But then with other fears, it can also be that you really have to kinda go through them. Like, I think with my money story, to be honest, I don't know if there would have been any other way to really relax around the topic than just going through it and coming out at the other end and realizing, it's it's okay. I'm still alive. It's nothing really happened. I could deal with it. And then, automatically, the relaxation comes in.
Mahara Wayman [00:25:55]:
I think you bring up a really good point, which is even when we have evidence to the contrary, sometimes we are in such a habit of assuming the worst, and we we will put ourselves through hell on an assumption. So I like that idea of collect the evidence. You know, we've we have a lot of evidence of why we suck, and most of it probably, if we looked at it closely, is just bullshit. Right? That's just that's just your opinion, and it's not it's not a fact. So I do like the idea of collecting evidence, and especially when we start small. Right? It's it's easier to collect easy evidence. But if give ourselves permission to build on that experience little by little. And every time you build up, you may have to take a few deep breaths to let go of the fear that you're feeling.
Mahara Wayman [00:26:41]:
But you feel it, you let it go, and you and you act anyway. I think that's a real that's sort of the crux of being badass. Being brave is to feel the fear and act anyway. Right? I don't think we need to be fearless because I think we'll always have fear. Like, what's really what what's kinda more cool is to feel it and go, I'm willing. I am willing to feel it. I'm willing to go through the pain often. And I just this just happened to me very recently.
Mahara Wayman [00:27:08]:
Something popped up on my computer. I only saw a few words, and I assumed the worst. And my my gut just clenched, and I was panicked for, like, the 25 minutes it took me to actually open the email and see that the email had nothing to do with me. And I'm like and a friend of because she had been on the I was on in a meeting, and I sent everybody a message going, oh my god. I think this. And then I sent them a message afterwards going, everything's okay. Had nothing to do with me. And they're like, you idiot.
Mahara Wayman [00:27:38]:
You you wasted 20 minutes LOL. Stressing out. And I thought, Jesus, don't I know better? Like, I know better. Isn't it interesting? And guys, coaches have coaches too. Right? I have a coach. I have a couple actually, but I it's a daily thing sometimes to remind myself to do the work, to ask the questions and to sit with the discomfort. Nobody really likes to sit there, but it's, it's a very powerful, powerful experience to recognize why you're feeling the way that you're feeling. Okay.
Mahara Wayman [00:28:08]:
So you help entrepreneurs build online businesses so that they can travel more.
Rebecca Nassor [00:28:14]:
Exactly.
Mahara Wayman [00:28:15]:
Okay. What's been what's been the biggest joy that you've experienced helping others?
Rebecca Nassor [00:28:21]:
I think usually it's this this thing when you when you had a session and there was just, like, a breakthrough or people suddenly understand something or see something in a different way, this this, starting to see the possibilities, I think. When people start when when clients or people in general start to see possibilities and start to see that they actually can do something that they never thought was possible was possible. I think that's just that's just every time so so much fun again.
Mahara Wayman [00:28:45]:
That's kind of the be all and end all of being a coach. Right? It's when to your point, you're right. There's nothing greater than when a client goes, I didn't know. Like, I just didn't know that. So it's wonderful to see you get so lit up by recognizing that that brings you brings you joy. Is this the reason you're here on earth this time around to do this work? Or is, or is there something bigger in, in your future?
Rebecca Nassor [00:29:10]:
Oh, let's see. I mean, there's, there's lots of things that I would still be excited to try. I've started to look into speaker educations because I would really love to to become motivational speaker, something in that sense. It's one of my biggest fears, to be honest, to be on stage. I was really, like as I said, I was quite an introvert as a as a child, and I hated absolutely to have whole presentations or things like that. Since I started to go out more, like, have interviews like this, be on Instagram, talking to the camera, I get more and more comfortable with it. And I feel like that's that's one of those next levels to really build my voice and build my speaking more.
Mahara Wayman [00:29:48]:
What would you speak about? Cause this is my jam. I'm a motivational speaker and I love being on stage. I always have, but and it's it's different, right? Not everybody feels that way, but what's your message? If you all of a sudden had full confidence, a stage of 500 people listening and you had 15 minutes, what would you talk about?
Rebecca Nassor [00:30:06]:
I think it comes back to this, the same thing of just do it. Just, just go for it. We only have this one life. What, what are you waiting for? Just don't be on this, on this break all the time. What it could things go what if things could go wrong or whatever. Just use this this life and this time that you have on this planet and go for it.
Mahara Wayman [00:30:25]:
Such a such a powerful message. And we've all watched, for example, Nike, that's their slogan. Just do it. It's an amazing story how that whole slogan came about. So many of us though, just sit on the sidelines and watch and go, Yeah, That's good for them, but not for me. What would you say to that person who is letting life pass them by? Can you give any advice to our listeners who can say on the one hand, yeah, that's great for you guys.
Rebecca Nassor [00:30:55]:
Yeah.
Mahara Wayman [00:30:55]:
That's great that you can do that, but that's not for me. And I wish it were. What kind of advice would you give though?
Rebecca Nassor [00:31:00]:
I think a question that always like helps me to make decisions when, when I'm sort of unsure is is just what would I do? Or how would I feel about myself if I would, if I died in 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, just, like, try different time spans and see usually, the answers are a bit different. But really, let this be a thought for a moment and give it some room and, like, what what actually how would you feel if you if you died? Would you be happy? Was that, like, was that it? Was that did you enjoy what you did so far? Or is there something that you actually still would love to experience? Because I think that's that's the main mistake. It's hard to say, but it's just something many people do that they just expect life to be for granted for for a long time, which is just not necessarily the case. Understanding again that our time is really limited and giving that some room that can often help to break out of certain situations that are just not healthy or not fulfilling sometimes. Yeah.
Mahara Wayman [00:32:11]:
Or a combination of both. Right? Combination of both. Great advice. And, you know, it is it's so interesting that the human animal makes an assumption that we're gonna live forever. We we just talk about death. You know, I have a friend that's a death doula, and I have a couple of friends actually that are in the end of life arena. And it is shocking how many how many societies, it's not all, but so many societies just put blinders on and make assumptions. And then there's such sadness when when life comes to an end and, you know, people pass away.
Mahara Wayman [00:32:44]:
Everyone everyone is here and lives their full life based on what they were meant to do. The problem is that the full life, you know, for those that are left behind, especially, it's like, wow, how could that be a full life? You you were only 30. You're only 40. And if you I I think if we pass and we haven't had a fulfilling life, whatever that is, then there could be a lot of disappointment. Your point. Hey. I I'm not done yet. How come how come the plug is being pulled and I'm not done? So great, great call out.
Mahara Wayman [00:33:18]:
If we are feeling unhappy in our world, take a moment to reflect that the time is not guaranteed. And so if there's changes that we can make in the moment to feel more fulfilled, then look at them because you may not have 10 years, 5 years, 5 months. Good tip. Any other tips that you'd like to share with the audience on how to live a life where you feel brave and honest and excited about every day?
Rebecca Nassor [00:33:54]:
I guess it comes back to this, like, collecting these experiences. Give yourself chances to to feel brave every day. Like, if especially if you want to, cultivate this feeling more, it doesn't always have to be something huge. Just can even mean, like, you go out tonight alone and sit in a restaurant. Like, for some people that's really, like, having dinner alone can be something something strange or something that they feel awkward about. What what whatever it is, really. Just seek out these experiences, and do it anyway and collect these moments.
Mahara Wayman [00:34:28]:
I think that's great advice. Collect moments of experiences where you have stretched yourself. And been a little bit. And again, it's not about climbing the mountain or doing anything. It doesn't have to be a huge major heroic effect. It can be for some of us. For some of us, it's brave just to ask for help or it's brave to say, I actually don't know what to do next, or I'm not happy. I think one of the bravest things women can do, specifically women, is to admit that we're unhappy.
Mahara Wayman [00:35:00]:
Because we've been taught, you know, get your get your shit together and do it all. Right? You can, like, do it. So awesome. Look for the moments to be brave and collect the memories, collect the experiences, and don't be afraid to sit in your fears. Another, you kind of said that earlier. Is there anything else that you would recommend to perhaps a young entrepreneur or doesn't matter whether they're young or not, who cares? Anything else that you'd recommend to entrepreneurs on how to develop their badassery for their business specifically?
Rebecca Nassor [00:35:36]:
I think it it comes down to the same things as in general, even in entrepreneurship. Also there just just really go at it and go out there and meet people like networking, especially and meeting people is just so essential in the beginning of a business. And usually, also, really helps you to go out of yourself and and and experience yourself with others and with with even strangers. Learn to pitch again and again, introduce yourself again and again and understand or see if people understand what you're saying to them. Because that's usually a big piece having having also the clarity of selling something. Like, people need to understand you. So practice that again and again.
Mahara Wayman [00:36:21]:
Great advice. If we're gonna be in whether we're in business or not, learning to speak your truth is paramount, I think, to live in a badass life, whether you're trying to introduce your business to someone or just make a new friend or just have your voice heard in the community. Learning to stand and and speak your truth is essential. Sometimes we need to practice it. Sometimes we don't because it's so natural. But if it's not natural, practice. I love that. That's great advice.
Mahara Wayman [00:36:50]:
Whatever we wanna get good at, it's okay to practice it. Very few are born with the skills that we need to navigate this life. But given ourselves permission to practice, to feel, practice, and to fail, although I don't really believe in the word fail, is is important to live in a badass life. I think, Rebecca, what don't we know about your business that you'd like to share with with our audience?
Rebecca Nassor [00:37:16]:
I think there's a lot already. Maybe the only piece is, that I'm launching a program pretty soon. Masterminding. Okay.
Mahara Wayman [00:37:25]:
You're launching a mastermind program shortly. Tell us what program.
Rebecca Nassor [00:37:32]:
It's gonna be 3 months. A group of maximum 5 people. It's really about those basic steps of getting from, okay, I want to work online, but I don't really know how or what exactly I offer, to having first clients. So the 1st month is all around getting a clear offer that people also can understand. Like, that's first of all, you're passionate about and that it's fun for you, but that people also can understand and, that there's also some need on the market for it. The second step is gonna be about online presence, online building an online community, and also working on a sales page. And then the, like, the last month is all around networking, getting getting yourself out there meeting people getting first clients.
Mahara Wayman [00:38:16]:
Excellent. Well, it sounds amazing. Have you named your masterclass?
Rebecca Nassor [00:38:22]:
Kind of. Yeah. It's called, like, my usual one on one program is already called the Adventure Academy. K. And it's pretty similar. It's just basically named it now the Adventure Academy Mastermind because this this adventure spirit is really what I'm about. So I wanted to keep that.
Mahara Wayman [00:38:39]:
Oh, I love that name. Very powerful. So guys, don't forget to check the show notes. I'm gonna drop all of the information that I can so that you can connect with Becca, learn more about this amazing work that she's doing to help entrepreneurs create fun and excitement in their business so that they can have a life of travel, really a life of freedom, whatever it is that looks for, looks like to them. Rebecca, thank you so much for taking time to chat with with me today. I really appreciate it. And your energy is just amazing. You're just it's beautiful to watch, and it's it was lovely to experience.
Mahara Wayman [00:39:14]:
See you next week on the art of badassery. And, again, a huge thank you and shout out to my guest, Rebecca, for joining us today. Bye bye. Thank you for tuning in to the art of badassery. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and gained valuable insights to help unleash your inner badass. If you found this podcast helpful, please leave a rating or review on your favorite platform. Your feedback not only helps me improve the show, but it also helps others like yourself discover the podcast. Until next time, keep embracing your authenticity and living life on your terms.
Mahara Wayman [00:39:53]:
Here's to you.
